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The humble banana almost seems like a miracle of nature. Colourful, nutritious, and much cherished by children, monkeys and clowns, it has a favoured position in the planet’s fruitbowls. The banana is vitally important in many regions of the tropics, where different parts of the plant are used for clothing, paper and tableware, and where the fruit itself is an essential dietary staple. People across the globe appreciate the soft, nourishing flesh, the snack-sized portions, and the easy-peel covering that conveniently changes colour to indicate ripeness. Individual fruit—or fingers—sit comfortably in the human hand, readily detached from their close-packed companions. Indeed, the banana appears almost purpose-designed for efficient human consumption and distribution. It is difficult to conceive of a more fortuitous fruit.
The banana, however, is a freakish and fragile genetic mutant; one that has survived through the centuries due to the sustained application of selective breeding by diligent humans. Indeed, the “miraculous” banana is far from being a no-strings-attached gift from nature. Its cheerful appearance hides a fatal flaw— one that threatens its proud place in the grocery basket. The banana’s problem can be summed up in a single word: sex.
The banana plant is a hybrid, originating from the mismatched pairing of two South Asian wild plant species: Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana. Between these two products of nature, the former produces unpalatable fruit flesh, and the latter is far too seedy for enjoyable consumption. Nonetheless, these closely related plants occasionally cross-pollinate and spawn seedlings which grow into sterile, half-breed banana plants. Some ten thousand years ago, early human experimenters noted that some of these hybridized Musa bore unexpectedly tasty, seedless fruit with an unheard-of yellowness and inexplicably amusing shape. They also proved an excellent source of carbohydrates and other important nutrients.
Despite the hybrid’s unfortunate sexual impotence, shrewd would-be agriculturalists realised that the plants could be cultivated from suckering shoots and cuttings taken from the underground stem. The genetically identical progeny produced this way remained sterile, yet the new plant could be widely propagated with human help. An intensive and prolonged process of selective breeding—aided by the variety of hybrids and occasional random genetic mutations—eventually evolved the banana into its present familiar form. Arab traders carried these new wonderfruit to Africa, and Spanish conquistadors relayed them onwards to the Americas. Thus the tasty new banana was spared from an otherwise unavoidable evolutionary dead-end.
Today, bananas and their close relatives, the starchy plantains, grow in a number of different varieties or cultivars. Among temperate palates, the most familiar is the Cavendish, a shapely and sweet-tasting dessert banana. This is the banana found in the supermarkets, splits, and milkshakes of the developed world. It is exported on an industrial scale from commercial plantations in the tropics. Every Cavendish is genetically identical, possessing the same pleasant taste (which is somewhat lacking in more subtle flavours according to banana aficionados). They also all share the same potential for yellow curvaceousness and the same susceptibility to disease.
Although there are numerous other banana and plantain varieties cultivated for local consumption in Africa and Asia, none has the same worldwide appeal as the Cavendish. While these other varieties display more genetic variability, all come from the same sterile Musa hybrids which so delighted our forebears thousands of years ago. Likewise none of them have enjoyed the benefits of the frenzied gene-shuffling facilitated by sexual congress.
Stuck with the clunky, inefficient cloning of asexual reproduction, the sterile banana is at a serious disadvantage in the never-ending biological arms race between plant and pest. Indeed, it is a well-established fact that bananas are particularly prone to crop-consuming insects and diseases. A severe outbreak of banana disease could easily spread through the genetically uniform plantations, devastating economies and depriving our fruitbowls. Varieties grown for local consumption would also suffer, potentially causing mass starvation in tropical regions.
This scenario may seem preposterous, but researchers all over the world are earnestly exploring the possibility. The custodians of the beloved banana are all too aware of the potential for a banana apocalypse— because it has already happened in the fruit’s past. And the next time could be much worse.
Until the middle of the twentieth century, most bananas on sale in the developed world belonged to the Gros Michel cultivar. These bananas were sweet and tasty and didn’t spoil too quickly, making them eminently suitable for commercial export. Old-timers contend that in flavour and convenience, the Gros Michel outshone even the current top-banana, the Cavendish. Yet from the early twentieth century, large plantations of ‘Big Mike’ proved increasingly fertile ground for a fungal leaf affliction known as Panama disease. Affected crops would soon deteriorate into rotting piles of unprofitable vegetation. As the century progressed, commercial growers found themselves in a desperate race against time, making doomed attempts to establish new plantations in disease-free areas of rainforest before the fungus arrived.
In the 1950s the Vietnamese Cavendish came to the rescue. Banana companies delayed switching from Big Mike for as long as possible due to the necessary changes in growing, storage, and ripening infrastructure, and many producers teetered on the edge of bankruptcy. As Big Mike started pushing up daisies, banana plantations frantically reconfigured, and by the mid 1960s the changeover was largely complete. The distinct—and now extinct—taste of Big Mike was quickly lost to the fickle public memory. Cavendish was king.
It has done a sterling job in the intervening years, yet now the Cavendish is starting to struggle in its own contest against contagion. In the 1970s a disease named Black Sigatoka was beaten back with enthusiastic applications of pesticide, but more recently a new strain of the original bane of the banana has threatened the plantations. Since 1992 a vigorous, pesticide-tolerant strain of Panama disease has been wiping out bananas—including previously resistant crops of Cavendish—in Southeast Asia. It has yet to reach the large commercial plantations in Latin America, but most banana-watchers believe that this is only a matter of time.
Opinions differ on how long the Cavendish can survive the new onslaught, and on the best way to tackle the threat. This time, unfortunately, there is no obvious back-up variety waiting in the wings. So far, banana science has provided scant few approaches for improving disease resistance. One method involves the traditional techniques of selective breeding: although banana plants are clones, very occasionally they can be persuaded to produce seeds through a painstaking process of hand pollination. Only one fruit in three hundred will produce a seed, and of these seeds only one in three will have the correct chromosomal configuration to allow germination. The seeds are laboriously extracted by straining tons of mashed fruit through fine meshes. Research stations in commercial banana growing countries, such as Honduras, engage large squads of banana sex workers for such tasks, and to screen the new plant varieties for favourable characteristics.
Another fruit subject to such human-assisted reproduction is the ubiquitous navel orange. It, too, was the result of a serendipitous mutation, this one from an orange tree in Brazil in the mid-1800s. Each orange on this particular tree was found to have a tiny, underdeveloped twin sharing its skin, causing a navel-like formation opposite the stem. These strange siamese citruses were much sweeter than the fruit of their parent trees, and delightfully seedless. Since the new tree was unable to reproduce naturally, caretakers amputated some of its limbs and grafted them onto other citrus trees to produce more of the desirable fruit. Even today navel oranges are produced through such botanical surgery, and all of the navel oranges everywhere are direct descendants—essentially genetic clones—of those from that original tree.
As for the Cavendish, its last best hope may lie in genetic modification (GM). The University of Leuven in Belgium is a world centre in banana research due to its colonial connections with Africa. Belgian banana scientists have become skilled in using DNA-transfer to introduce disease-resistance genes directly into the plant’s genome. These less labour-intensive methods promise a way to develop stronger, fitter, happier and more productive bananas.
In 2007, Ugandan field trials of the first Leuven uber-banana were announced, although public distaste of the idea of GM foods may impede its long term success. And in Honduras, researchers have developed a banana cultivar named ‘Goldfinger’ through traditional selective breeding methods. Although it has enjoyed some public acceptance in Australia, it suffers from the drawbacks of a distinctly different, non-Cavendish flavour, and a longer maturation time. If nothing else, these advances offer hope that science will one day overcome the unfortunate sexual inadequacies of the banana. Let us hope so, otherwise the resulting bananageddon will ensure that the Cavendish goes the way of Big Mike, and future generations of fruit lovers will have to find some other curved yellow food to complement their ice cream.
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Is this where we suggest banana jokes?
1st! Oooh yeah.
2nd. And DI!
This certainly explains why organic bananas are rare and expensive.
If Cavendish failed today, what would take its place?
DI
I remember being taught in Biology, ages ago, that the banana was triploid, i.e. three sides. Freak of nature it certainly is, but yummy as in banana cream pie!!
Ohhh if only I had realized I had just happened upon a fresh article I could have posted first before the chance had spoiled. Ohh well, DI article. I’m surprised they cannot genetically modify the species to be resistant to common blights. Are the plants that gave rise to the banana as susceptible to the same diseases?
ohh yeah,
mmmmmmm pie.
Well that certainly blows one creationist’s argument away.
Did I understand right that all commercial bananas today (except organic) are in fact genetically modified? As in GM corn, soy etc, stuff that we’re suppose to avoid because it has no DNA and some say no aura and are therefore most probably harmful for our health. If so, why there isn’t a widespread anti GM movement against bananas as there is against those other crops? Also, since it heavily depends on pesticides to survive, does anyone know how safe it is to eat it compared to other conventionally grown fruits?
#10 Nice!
Now all we need is something to tackle Peanut Butter, but that one’s much harder to argue against of course.
Damn Ironic.
What would Elvis eat without peanut butter and banana sandwiches? Today’s music would be completely different without his inspiration, and if he had no bananas and peanut butter to eat he would have died years ago of starvation instead of being alive today……..
Great article Damn Interesting as always. That last picture really made me laugh.
“large squads of banana sex workers”
Thanks for that one. And the rest of it was a fun read. Lucky for us DI strikes again.
I couldn’t imaging a world without bananas…
I remember reading/hearing that the Gros Michel is not extinct. That it is grown in greenhouses and controlled environments they can keep disease-free. Could not find where I read/heard that but Wikipedia links to an article that talks about how they are using Gros Michel to create a disease resistant banana.
Damn Interesting, Indeed! Any article with “sex” and “banana” in the title is bound to arouse interest in any reader! I never realized that the current banana supply was in any danger of being wiped out by disease, fungus. or parasites, but now I have a better appreciation for what is “the perfect fruit”.
Which brings up another topic that I was thinking about while grocery shopping recently. How lucky we are in developed countries to be able to walk into a supermarket and have an abundance of fresh fruit to purchase. And, not only do we have 12 different varieties of apples to choose from, but we get to pick through the pile to find the best looking ones to take home. Then, 2 weeks later when we haven’t eaten them (but they looked so good in the store – I really meant to eat ’em), we throw them away before the fruit flies take over the household…
I must admit to a deep dark secret – I have eaten a banana practically every day for at least the last 20 years. And what they say is true; after tasting some other varieties, I learned the one the American public gets is very bland compared to others. It is the same situation we have with apples – eating only Red Delicious and missing out on any real apple taste, or with beer – drinking only Bud Light and thinking you have experienced the taste of beer. We have even tried to ruin chocolate by making it extra sweet, & adding milk and sugar. Then there is that abomination named “white chocolate” which has absolutely nothing in common with chocolate. I know the Mayans desribe their heaven as forever sitting under a tree and drinking chocolate; for my part I think we could add eating bananas to that…..and peanut butter……and drinking beer…..and, oh yeah, eating pie!
DI and damn amusing. Bananageddon… FUD for the whole family!
PS: Thanx for the book, best damn $14 I’ve spent in years.
Thanks Matt for a fresh read, It’s great to see you back! Oh what a naughty mind you have, LOL.
Waaay back many moons ago, when DI! was just a two month old baby website, Jason Bellows posted an article about the praying Mantis. ( Mighty Mantes Written by Jason Bellows on 29 October 2005 )
There was a link to some neat buggy photos. Exploring that link I found a whole series of beautiful pictures showing the blooming and growth of a bunch of bananas.. Check it out, these are very pretty, and I had no idea that bananas grew up-side down.
http://www.kleptography.com/gallery-bananagrove.htm
Oops! How rude of me to not post the link to Jason’s article. Here tis with my appologies!:
https://www.damninteresting.com/mighty-mantes
Genetic modification (at the level of direct DNA manipulation) should be used with intelligent caution, yes, but bear in mind that humans have already been effecting GM plants (and animals) for thousands of years — via selective breeding.
Thanks, Matt, both for new DI content (don’t call it a comeback…) and for opening my eyes to something new to worry about, and something new to connoisse. In my family, we go through 3-5 Cavendishes a day.
But their sides are kind of rounded, so they can’t be fully triploid. Perhaps they just have multiple trisomies to account for the bulges!
Unto Mr. Castle:
Good stuff, sir! I had heard some of these things in a radio news article, but your article adds nicely to that.
[nitpick mode]
“Fortuitous” means “accidental”, not “fortunate”.There are three small errors I wish to bring to your attention…
“the Honduras” –> “Honduras”
“Compliment” means “to bestow praise”; “complement” means “to fill out, to complete”.
Now returning you to your (ir)regularly scheduled DI writing… :-)
[/nitpick mode]
Mr. Castle:
Congratulations! I have read quite a bit about the various types of bananas, but I had not found all of the information that you have written here. Thanks.
Fellow DIers: You might find this to be of interest: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_banana_a_berry
Final comment (my usual): The book is great. Keep this site alive: Buy the book, and thanks to those who have.
Wow. I had no idea the banana (and the navel orange) had such an interesting past.
dRAEMtYGER, I hope you’re right about the Big Mike. I’d love to try one some day, and it would be a shame if it were lost forever.
Great read Castle. Thanks for the brain food.
We cannot allow a banana gap!
Varieties? Vine ripened? And proclaimed rather bland? We in the Midwest are deprived of a taste others take for granted.
Silverhill – Actually, both definitions of fortuitous (accidental & lucky) are apparently acceptable and well-known: http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/fortuitous?jss=0
Although I confess that the ‘accidental’ version is new to me. Might be a regional difference.
In the 1970s a disease named Black Sigatoka was beaten back with enthusiastic applications of pesticide, but more recently a new strain of the original bane of the banana has threatened the plantations.
Pardon my possible ignorance, but shouldn’t this be herbicide?
Silverhill #26
Glad you enjoyed the article. I believe that ‘fortuitous’ is generally accepted as ‘fortunately accidental’ in modern usage. Guilty as charged on your other hawk-eyed nitpicks, though– edits should be forthcoming.
Eduardo #32
‘Fungicide’ would be the most accurate term to use here. ‘Pesticide’ covers it though.
This article was already DI when I read the unfinished version a few weeks ago, and it is even more so now. Please continue to supply us with such high quality articles, even if you have to take your time to do so!
Adding to what Silverhill already answered, currently most Bananas are not genetically modified in the sense that anti-GM-activists are concerned about.
According to the article they are “cloned” from a parent plant, a process used for many other plant species like grapes or potatoes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloning#Horticultural
Selective breeding is also a form of GM, though (if not used on humans) it is generally not considered unethical.
What is usually meant when talking about GM is direct manipulation of an organism’s DNA, and so far this process is not widely used in Bananas.
As to the dangers to one’s health while consuming GM-food, I am not really concerned about that. GM-food has been a regular part of our diet for some time now, and so far no obvious problems have surfaced.
What I am concerned about is the effects that GM-crops can have upon the natural flora in the areas where it is cultivated. GM-crops are engineered to be superior to natural crops so, if they are allowed to propagate into the wild they could crowd out other vegetation like what happened with Caulerpa Taxifolia.
https://www.damninteresting.com/mutant-killer-seaweed-of-doom
A great article, thankyou.
I can’t wait for the book to be released here in the UK, Amazon says 1st of October.
It’s all a lie, I tell you. I never had anything to do with Big Mike.
It will be a sad day to see the last of the banana, but: a triploid genome? A sterile, cloned monoculture? Sorry folks, but I think it’s doomed (sob!)
(makes another banana milkshake before it’s too late.)
DI.
I have two question though: Does Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana (or variants) still exist today and if so can you still cross pollinate them (I would presume you could otherwise the Latin names would have changed somewhat more extremely)?
Where I am going with this is that these two strains could have remained genetically diverse enough (due to their sexual reproduction) to withstand the Panama and Bananageddon scenarios. This could make it plausible that every so often you could cross-pollinate and repopulate the banana plantations to naturally “update” their genetics.
I realize that as far as getting the right taste and resistance there would be a lot of research and trial&error (phenotype/genotypes being what they are and all) and that re plantation would be costly but surely this could be one way the banana plantations could immediately slow the effects of full blown bananagedon while buying some time for geneticists to create a GM “super” banana?
Anyway, food for though.
I personally hope that it will be PBJ Time for a little while more and that that ring ring ringing could possibly be coming from a Banana phone…
I remember reading somewhere, sometime, that women in Hawaii used to be (long ago) prohibited, under pain of death, from touching bananas because of the magical phallic resemblance. I wonder if that is true or just a good story.
It appears that what I read before is true. An interesting link:
http://www.coffeetimes.com/banana.htm
Someone needs to get on top of the problem. NOW! Life without banana bread would totally suck. Where is the government intervention? Where is the public outcry? We must do something.
“As for the Cavendish, its last best hope may lie in genetic modification (GM). The University of Leuven in Belgium is a world centre in banana research due to its colonial connections with Africa. Belgian banana scientists have become skilled in using DNA-transfer to introduce disease-resistance genes directly into the plant’s genome.”
You get this year’s award for ‘most blatant non-sequitur’. Banana eugenics has brought us to the brink of a bananapocalypse and yet the fruit’s ‘last best hope’ lies in GMOs–eugenics on steroids–which have so far proven to be a far less predictable and far more destructive trial-and-error science?
IMHO, we should quit while we still have viable musa and (reasonably) pesticide-free bananas.
I love this article and the further reading links!
I grew up in Hawaii(the big island) And some point about 10 years ago there was a banana virus outbreak that I as a kid thought was stupid. The quarentined off the town of Kailua-Kona, and sytematically killed every banana plant!(Planticide? Herbicide? Floracide? i dunno.)
I dont remember if it was the cavendish variety though. I cant eat that supermarket variety here in seattle. It is NOT THE SAME. I’m not an afficianato or anything, but our supermarket had APPLE BANANAS once and they are much more delicious than the cavendish. My dads apple bananas are seriously like eating candy when it is just ripe. People who’ve only ever had supermarket variety’s cannot imagine it. (similarly I hated apples before I moved to Washington)
Also, I only eat bananas with a little bit of brown on them. any green, and it is too ripe. I know way to many people who like unripe, pale tasting bananas and they think I’m weird because I don’t like bananas yet grew up in Hawaii. You gotta eat local produce. It just tastes better.
A good story about brown bananas. Most people throw them away when they have a few spots on them. DONT! They are perfectly fine. It turn out that people are more selective about texture than flavor. I dont care however. When they get brown and soft, they get must more sweet. A friend of mine was hanging out with a buddy and his little kid, and they had a brown banana laying around. Not spotted, but pure brown. He peeled some back, and pantomimed eating a bite. He then offired it to the little kid who of course refused. “but that’s a bad banana!” “No, not this one” he replied ” This one is a Chocolate banana!” “Oh… ok!” and the kid ate the whole thing smiling. Brown bananas look gross, but taste just as sweet.
fizban, that nice brown state a banana reaches is not time to throw them out. That’s the perfect state banananananas (I can never remember how many ana’s they get) need to be in for banananana bread.
I think you’re right, though. The texture plays a big part for a lot of people.
Hiya,
If one cuts a banana and note the inner bits there are three sides unlike an apple or for the most part, any other organic thing. ach well, it’s banana smoothie time
Sex, bananas, naval oranges…what would Freud say!
NUTS!
Brilliant article!!
Good Job!
The best bananas I have ever were on the South Atlantic island of St. Helena. They grow at least 6 different varieties (some locals say the best are grown by Cyril, the proprietor of the “Cyril’s Snack Stand in Jamestown).
Thanks for another new article!
MMMMM… Banana cream pie…………..
I’d say that “banana eugenics” is what enabled us to enjoy bananas today in the first place…
yay for Radiohead references!
DI … it is sooooo good that you are back.
…more … please!
DI is back as the Top Bananna! Remember, just because you can’t reproduce doesn’t mean you can’t have sex…
I recently discovered that I have been peeling my bananas from the wrong end. You should peel from the end opposite the stalk, which is the top when they’re growing on a banana plant but is traditionally considered the bottom. It’s much easier to peel from that end, you pinch off the little black bit that no-one likes to eat, and the remaining end pops easily out of the skin when you eat down that far. It’s also how monkeys do it, and monkeys are the experts in bananas!
True, but at least good ol’ fashioned eugenics didn’t have nasty side-effects. Or built-in carcinogens. The farmers also had the advantage of experimenting, testing, and validating over several generations (rather than six months).
Regardless, an article describing how eugenics is responsible for the coming bananapocalypse isn’t the greatest endorsement for GMOs.
And who knows. Maybe those seeded musa are darn tasty. A whole industry (with a lifetime of more than a few generations) could’ve sprung up if not for the shiny yellow ‘insta-musa’ with built-in tab that seduced us all. ;)
Definitiely DI. I’d heard a bit about bananas being clones before… but navel oranges too!
I just ate a navel orange for desert. Felt weird, now that I knew that it was 100 years old. :P
Poster #9 beat me to it. It’s true creationists have pointed to the banana as being designed by God just for us.
I learned from Bill Nye’s educational show that sexual reproduction came about for the purpose of accelerating genetic diversity so we can stay ahead of parasites and diseases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELahVSsrmA8
What I really wonder is how we organisms made that change from asexual to sexual reproduction.
I seriously doubt anyone would build-in carcinogens into GM-food either ;-)
Interesting… Where exactly does this article describe how eugenics is responsible for the possible impending extinction of the banana?
What puts the banana in peril is its own sterility. Without human assisance it would have gone the way of the Dodo long ago.
“Old-fashioned eugenics”? This just reminds me of forced sterilization of the disabled, euthanasia, and ultimately nazism (apologies to M. Godwin).
VMfrom LA: the pattern of 3 sides inside the fruit is a sign that bananas are monocot plants. You’re right that few other tree fruits have this pattern, because trees are dicot plants, and banana plants, though tall, aren’t true trees.
Flowering trees are dicots, that is. Not redwoods & ginkgos & cycads.
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Hmmm… not much improvement over “Clam Taste.”
Goldfinger Bananas are great tasting. Suprised they aren’t more widely eaten
@Virgil:
“GMOs–eugenics on steroids–which have so far proven to be a far less predictable and far more destructive trial-and-error science?”
Genetic Modified Foods have so far had no significant destructive effect. It is very much in the early stages so yea it’s trial and error, but what’s bad with that?
“True, but at least good ol’ fashioned eugenics didn’t have nasty side-effects. Or built-in carcinogens”
You seriously mean that the holocaust didn’t have any nasty side effects? How could killing off a sizable percentage of the top intellectuals of the world NOT have nasty side effects? As for carcinogens, you need to stop listening to the propaganda from the anti GM-fundamentalists. Creating a carcinogen from scratch via genetic engineering is extremely hard/unlikely. Creating _cancer_ in the species you are hacking around with, however, is quite easy. But as you should’ve learnt from school cancer is not a communicative disease (and if a GE introduces cancer in a plant he’d just destroy that plant and start over anyway).
Thanks, I heard David Wolfe mentioning no DNA in GM foods. However, I wouldn’t equate changing the DNA through selective breeding with mixing the plants with herbicides so they don’t have to be sprayed, and resulting in plants that don’t reproduce. They don’t mention herbicides here, but I wonder what it means “disease resistance gene” and if/how it affects our body.
Well, not widely used as in not at all, or there are some commercial ones that are, in which case I certainly can’t tell from looking at the banana :)?
No obvious problems? And the prevalence of cancer, diabetes, obesity and so on comes from…..watching too much TV. Or maybe from the lack of nutrients in our diet? GM, irradiated, heavy metal contaminated, nutrients depleted foods. I am amazed how many people still trust in ‘scientists’ and ‘scientific research’. We still haven’t figured out the system that will teach each particular person what/how to eat to achieve optimal health- the basics. That should make us think what DO they know? Or how much we are not being told.
Not only do GM crops crowd out other plants, they mix with the original crops and form mutants that by and by eradicate the real crops, such as corn in Mexico for ex. But then that’s another story…
I, for one, revile the banana and all flavours thereof, foreign and domestic, and bid it a disrespectful and dismissive farewell. May your nauseating scent and mealy pablum-like texture forever be consigned to the mulch heap of history. I revel in your impending doom, banana bread! I joyously dance in the new day, freed from the formerly looming shadow of your supply chain, freed from the millions of dollars of Dole protection monies paid to bloodthirsty cartels! Freed from your vile puerile stench that coats babies’ and comely co-ed’s breath.
All hail your likely successor, kumquat. ( or some such other awkwardly named fruit). Truly a proud day for me, i get to make my first post amongst such esteemed minds and do so while cock-punching a self-immolating fruit.
Next week: Joys of hobbling ailing pensioners
Gosh, now i dont even have the heart to address the preceeding treasure trove packaged so neatly in elipses. I can only hope 66 will provide an insightful look into the mutagenic markers of manipulated maize?
Not in commercial ones, but according to the article, there is some experimentation under way, so “not at all” would not be correct.
Well, people in third world countries probably eat GM corn and other GM foodstuffs just like we do, but you don’t see that many of them with obesity or diabetes problems… Actually watching too much TV or eating McDonalds 4 times a week seem to be much more likely candidates to cause them.
And depending on who you listen to, just about everything causes cancer…
I have yet to see any serious, scientifically based study linking cancer to GM foods. In fact “A 2008 review published by the Royal Society of Medicine noted that GM foods have been eaten by millions of people worldwide for over 15 years, with no reports of ill effects. Similarly a 2004 report from the US National Academies of Sciences stated: “To date, no adverse health effects attributed to genetic engineering have been documented in the human population.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_food_controversy
Since there are multiple NGOs actively trying to prove the health hazard of GM food, and none of them has to date been able to do so, I feel absolutely safe consuming them, so long as current regulatory standards are kept.
A world with no bananas would indeed suck (not for my b/f though, he hates the things). Lucky I have already had practice. When Cyclone Larry wiped out most of the Queensland banana crop in 2006 they rose from a usual $3/4 a kilo to a whopping $12 a kilo. So I stopped eating nanners for a while.
Then we visited Malaysia that same year. A bunch of Lady Finger bananas was 30 ringgit, which equalled about 1 Aussie dollar. I gorged myself on bananas (and various other tropical fruits) while I was there.
DI indeed! I would crushed if I couldn’t eat delicious bananas. Luckily, my husbad works as a tropical horticulturist for a Botanic Gardens, and they grow all sorts of varieties of bananas….well beyond cavendish. Talk about literally getting to eat the fruits of his labor!
DI indeed. I will never look at another banana the same way again after seeing that cartoon at the end.
I’ve been focussing on “creating your reality” thing lately, so I guess that would mean that as long as you believe it won’t harm you- it won’t. Beware when the scientific study come that proves it IS harmful :).
And then, scientific studies or not, here’s what chicken do without them:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/05/Chickens-Not-Fooled-by-GM-Crops.aspx
I forgot to mention the “World according to Monsanto” video on youtube that has interviews with prominent scientists in the UK discovering harmful effects of GM potatoes I believe, on rats. And being fired from their jobs after disclosing the information to the public on BBC. We are living in a fast pace world, so you are right, watch where your information comes from. I don’t trust any source that is widely available, such as Wikipedia, and could compromise big industries.
Well, why not? Just because you have to cross-breed two musa to get the perfect fruit doesn’t make it any less of a ‘perfect design’ for consumption. Especially given the ridiculously primitive way in which it’s accomplished. Try getting the ‘perfect carphone’ by taping your home phone into your sedan. ;)
Still, the theory of fruits being optimized for human consumption really doesn’t explain coconuts… or pineapples. ;)
Tell that to the farmers in India whose GMO grain required so much water that they’ve sucked their water table down to the brine.
Or tell it to the Norwegians that wiped out a third of their arctic fisheries by using GMO krill.
Or look up the conditions Monsanto puts on the sale of their grains, which include a prohibition on scientific testing to scrutinize their claims about how well their products work. Even ‘Scientific American’ was crying foul on that one.
Unfortunately, pro-GMO research is funded at a 40:1 ratio to anti-GMO research (follow the money trails), and don’t fool yourself into thinking that research results don’t reflect the mandate of the institutions subsidizing them. Even if the best minds in the world were out to take on GMOs, they’d still be outgunned 40:1. Who’s going to find ‘scientific truth’ buried in that morass?
I was talking about food eugenics, and being facetious to boot.
A carcinogen is a cancer-causing agent. Select pesticide-enhanced grains have been shown in independent tests (some of which have already been mentioned in this forum) to cause carcinoma, meningioma, and other varieties of cancer. The latest batch of Frankenveggies are untested at best, dangerous at worst.
You expect ‘safety’ from the same crowd that rubber-stamped everything from DDT to benzoates to methylmercury?
Where you got this notion of a ‘contagion’, I’m not sure…?
Nothing. He’s dead.
A fine DamnInteresting article. Here’s hoping for more. Though I confess, I’m now going to have nightmares about wanting a banana split after bananas have gone extinct.
Also, I feel compelled to point out that a great many popular fruits are cloned. One variety of grapes has been cloned from cuttings from a bush in the Middle East (Israel I think, but I’m not sure of that) for something like 1000 years.
What??? No, seriously, I fail to see the connection. What do people dinking with banana genetics have to do with creationism???
rafgar: Creationists have argued that a banana is proof of Intelligent Design. No, really, I’m not kidding. The gist of the argument is that the shape is convenient to eat, it comes neatly packed, and you can tell from the outside if it is ripe. Therefore, god made it. Kind of like lollipops, which were also designed by god. Proponents of evolution, on the other hand, only talk of DNA, genetics, and other magic mumbo jumbo used to confuse you.
Well, that’s not what I thought this article was going to be about. It was DI as always. This one isn’t really a challenge to connect to pie, though.
STPH Translate: Shut The Pie Hole kid
Hey everybody we’re back and better than ever! Just kidding, we’ll just post one or two articles and then abandon the site again. If you need us we’ll be in Vegas, spending our book profits.
#80 Hey stop whining, you should be glad they post. EVER. Do you realize how little content there is online? In fact, Im just going to shut my computer down until DI posts again. See you next year!
*lol* @ #80.
Ooohhh!
You guys are such teasers.
Get people hooked with fascinating stories and witty writing, string them out, give them just a little taste of the good stuff, then disappear back into the ether.
If I didn’t love DI so much I’d go spare!
I might be wrong, but from my several years reading DI, I think that around the Jewish High Holidays, articles always seemed to grind to a halt. I just assumed that Allen was busy with other things around this time.
OK guys, did you post the couple of topics to tease us or are you really back? Feel free to include your fan base on what is really going on. I truly enjoy the reading but dislike the feeling of being unappreciated and kept out of the loop as a member.
Another month without an article. I really thought that after the book -which I bought two of, one as a gift- you would start writing articles again. At least give us an update on why nothing happens or let your guest writers make an article or two.
this was interesting a month ago….. when do the articles start coming in on a reg basis again?
Number 100! Yeah!
I had heard about the banana fungus and I’ve heard that there are bananas that taste amazing compared to the Cavandish ones. They are spraying the Cavandish bananas at an alarming rate–wash the outsides of them before peeling…
Interesting indeed.
I had high hopes that after the book we would start seeing regular posts again, but it doesn’t look that way. I am tired of coming here with no new articles. :(
To those complaining of the lack of new content: I apologize. I am experiencing some personal difficulties at the moment that are interfering with my ability to do anything that I normally take comfort in (including writing/editing/etc). I endeavor to peel away this bleak reality that has cocooned my psyche, but it is taking some time. Until then, updates will only come when I happen to have a bit of time, ambition, and joy all at the same time. Such synchronizations have become scarce.
Blah.
Have no fear, the faithful are plentiful and pertinacious, and we appreciate all the amazing work you have done and are continuing to do – keep your chin up, and may fortune find you in its favour.
Alan,
Patience is easier to achieve when informed, thanks for the update. I hope you find your happy place soon.
“The great path has no gates,
Thousands of roads enter it.
When one passes through this gateless gate
He walks freely between heaven and earth.”
Have you bought the book yet? If not, please do so. We need to support this site.
Thanks for buying the book. You have the right to ask questions.
Please become a real member by buying the book.
Have you bought the book?
To all those who want new articles:
Have you considered writing your own articles and submitting them to Mr. Bellows for his consideration? I suspect that you will find that scholarly-yet-entertaining writing is more difficult than it appears.
And, finally, once again: Please buy the book if you have not already. Give the Brothers Bellows a reason to maintain this site.
That’s great news. Thanks for being willing to part with a very little money to help support this site.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I found that holding the book instead of looking at a screen heightened the pleasure and experience of reading the articles.
I completely agree with sir.xerces.
I heard that they won’t post a new article until the number of people complaining in the comments reaches 200. Where’s our new article, monkeys?! Dance! Dance, monkeys!
Anonymousx2
Nice spam there. Have you bought the book? Wow thats rich, yeah I think most of us have and really, is that the problem? Book not selling? No new articles until X book sales reached? Is your last name bellows by any chance? Bad habits return as always.
“but I found that holding the book instead of looking at a screen heightened the pleasure and experience of reading the articles.”
Ok now I know youre being sarcastic! How about if you put the book in your pants and take 5 valiums, youll fall asleep and DREAM your own articles! This works people, try it!
Just want to say that I had the book bought by my Wife for me for my birthday, and it is excellent!
Nice one Guys!
D.
Spam? You’ve lost me. Each one of my posts is individual.
No, I am not Mr. Bellows. From what I have seen, Mr. Bellows would never think of promoting the book here. He has more class than that.
No, I was not being sarcastic. I am of the book generation, as are quite a few of us who visit this site. I know full well that the book as a medium is most likely doomed, especially when the Kindle finally becomes truly easy to use. Until that time, though, I will continue to enjoy the sensory experience of reading words on wood pulp or, even better, rag content.
Has anybody considered that instead of whining about the lack of content on the site we, the readers, could submit articles of our own for Mr Bellows’ approval? This would seem to solve all problems. I know it is easier said than done, but it could work. Is this possible, Mr Bellows?
Ugh, between getting ignored by the creators of this site and the mindless drones that defend it, Ive had it. Bookmark deleted after many, many years. Thanks for the good times, too bad its been so long since things were smooth, I feel like an abused spouse.
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We have a couple of articles written. Once we get Damn Alan to approve the Damn Articles they’ll be up.
In the meantime, I try to post interesting bits to the Damn Interesting twitter …
The months and months and months between articles is just ridiculous. What is the holdup? I love this site, but at this point it’s been what, a year since the site was properly tended too? And that with trying to hawk products.
Ya’ll need to get it together or just retire the site altogether.
Free site. I just enjoy what I get. Can’t get greedy when I am not paying. :)
And exactly how many articles have you submitted for their consideration, and exactly how much money have you donated to the Brothers Bellows so that they can continue this site?
No matter what country you call home, I hope that you do not represent the average person in your age group, and I hope that the rest of your family is not like you.
Thank you so much for the wonderful articles! Hope you’ll be able to write again soon. I look forward to a new article!
To the people who complain about the lack of updates: just remove the bookmark, go live your life. Maybe one day someone will send you an article from DI and you’ll go, “Oh, I used to visit that site.” DI isn’t supported by advertising, so it doesn’t matter if you don’t visit. No one owes you a DI article.
I have done both. You need not know how much I have donated or how many articles I have submitted. All you really need to know is that I have done both. However, irrespective of that fact, I still must maintain the authors of this site has an obligation imposed by the motion they have set before themselves to live up to the integrity of this site. Why create something only to keep it in a suspended state of disrepair? I find it is incipiently at least and often explicitly irresponsible. However, that being said, I do respect them and I do understand that things are not always as easy as they seem. But why have they not reached out to the hundreds of supporters who COULD offer their time or skill which would greatly benefit the site?
where did that page go that listed everyebody who donated i think i donated money to you guy s acouple of years ago but i’m not certain
anyways the lack of updates for articles is quite annoying
It would be nice if all the selfish whining people went away and stopped demanding more content from the good folk at Damn Interesting. DI owes you nothing. Stop whining like spoiled brat kids. How about showing some appreciation for the free content you’ve had for so long, and getting off the Bellows’ backs? They’ll get around to publishing more content when it suits them, and not when a bunch of whiny jerks tell them to. Kee-rist. If I was a Bellows brother, I’d be sorely tempted to throw in the towel after reading some of the garbage demanding more content. How about acting like adults and cutting them some slack?
It’s killing me that this site is not kept up… I understand what others are saying about the creators, their time and it being free is very nice. But, before I click on my favorites on “damn interesting” I say a little prayer that a new image populates instead of that damn aweful bananna! For about a year I was itching for a new article, read all the others already posted that interested me already, and now I’m teased with just a handful articles all posted in a short period of time… and then nothing again for over 2 months. Please make a decision- I don’t mind if you shut down the site… it will save my sanity since I can no longer deal with that bananna which laughs and taunts me!
Partario: I taught high school and college for thirty-three years, and I can assure you that most of the posters on this site are either middle or late adolescents. Their behavior is in keeping with their present state of development; I’m sure that the Brothers Bellows are well aware of this and are willing to be understanding, even though it must be a tad bit aggravating.
I scowl at that picture almost every day…
There are many of the older articles that I have not read. When I need a fix, I hit the random story button and it is new to me. The history of this site is usually about 1 new article every 4-6 months. I enjoy what there is and if the site was to go away, I would miss it. What I want to know is what can be done to improve the server (I get unable to connect error often these days)? If a payment of $15 year would keep the site going with a new article every month, then I would pay.
I couldn’t agree more. I will wait for as long as it takes to get new articles….in the meantime the “random article” button is a wonderful thing. DI you are great, don’t let the people who expect everything to be just as they want it, when they want it get you down.
What I don’t understand is that how come there are not more writers on this site? I don’t know how this site is managed but I bet there are hundreads of people here who could have something interesting to tell.
I think anybody foolish enough to donate money to this webpage should feel outraged at the lack of willingness of the creators/authors to update it.
I agree. Whichever side of the ongoing debate you follow; you cannot deny either of these points.
1) The site is woefully maintained.
and;
2) We, the readers and critics, do nothing about that. (Other than complain about the site, or defend it.)
Why not either submit articles ourselves, or vote with our cyberfeet? Enough apathy.
Either submit an article, or cease and desist. Put up, or shut up.
And to the Bellows’, is this where you want your site, and fans, headed?
Hmmm, I find the lack of new articles very frustrating and have done for about a year now. From the comments a lot of people agree with me. Well, at least all the grumbling must be very encouraging for the authors and owners of the site as it is confirmation they write excellent content.
Also, they should monetize the site in some small way. I’m not taking flashing, dancing banner ads, but maybe some subtle google ads down one side might help pay for more updates.
I agree that they need to put some advertisements on the site. It is silly to be throwing away all of this traffic.
From what I have seen in posts from Jason Bellows it sounds like they have a collection of articles ready to go, they are just waiting for Alan’s approval to post them to the site…
I agree with the ad idea, it will bring in revenue and can be done tastefully. Though I would prefer they only advertise for online porn sites to give me some eye candy while I read.
omg, you guys don’t get it.
everything you’ve read here is mirrored somewhere else on the internet, but it’s so very rare to find a decent site that provides quality content without compromising their standards – the neat format and interesting articles are what made DI great in the first place.
So be patient and have faith in the site you still visit on a regular basis…
I’d like to put in another vote for ads. Yes, they’re not the ideal solution, but it’s something to work with right now. I also feel as though it can be done tastefully, and doesn’t have to be overly intrusive.
How’s about you show your support by going out and buying the book? It is a great volume of the humorous ilk found on the site, IRL! I’m bummed the cyber-edition has slowed considerably, but I would be remiss to think I am ENTITLED to a new article every week or month. Go into the archives and read the past articles, can anyone say they’ve read them all? If so, how about twice? Surely they are DI enough to read again if you need a fix that bad? I’m sure these guys have lives, families, jobs … until there’s a subscription required, I think we get what we get and like it. Period.
BTW, a future article on Thomas Midgely, Jr’s arch-nemesis, Clair Patterson, could be DI!
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
Isn’t there a shelf life for banana articles?
Just bought the book, can’t wait to read it! Thank you DI crew for some of the most fascinating SFW content on the web. I am patiently looking forward to the next article. In the meantime Alan, I wish you lot’s of luck as you “peel away this bleak reality that has cocooned” your psyche. For that, I recommend a slice of pie with a Thorazine chaser.
kissaki:
kissaki: Blessings be upon thee for supporting this site, for not complaining, and for showing concern for Mr. Bellow.
I am now raising meat rabbits on Shmooo, banana’s with the skin, mixed grains with molasses, grass, weeds and clover. Each of the rabbits eat roughly a half banana per day. It took them a few days to warm up to the idea, since they had been raised prior to my getting them on nothing but rabbit pellets. They also eat orange peels with pulp and the cores of a variety of fruits with varying enthusiasm. The staple of their diet is Shmooo.
Great call on the Clair Patterson article. He’s a hero of mine. There should be a holiday in his honour.
Ive got a way we could keep the destruction of these bannanas, we put them in sealed greenhouses. We take a large field like say stadium size and put a dome over it. Then we make certain anyone with the plantation disease upon thier body does not eneter this area. We may also need animals inside of the dome to use up the oxygen that is created by the massive amount of trees, or find another way to convert the oxygen to carbondioxide without having to bring new air into the system. Also i was wondering if the previous type of bannanas has gone completely out of existance. If so thats too bad i would have like to try it, if not why dont we use this idea of a closed environment to create more of these bannanas :?
Sealed habitats for farming projects have a variety of problems. They are incredibly expensive. A complex and challenging example showing the scope of the problem would be Biosphere 2. This project did go on for more than two decades, and admittedly the goals were considerably more ambitious and challenging than isolating one particular crop endangered by disease.
But the enclosure of Biosphere 2 was only a little over three acres. First, that would not produce many bananas compared to demand. Perhaps one slice of banana per consumer per year, at a possible cost of $2 per slice. You can play with the numbers if you want. Figure about $10,000,000 per year for construction and maintenance. Then figure out the upper limit of production if everything worked out ideally. Then recognize that it is exceedingly unlikely that things will work out anything close to ideally.
Biosphere 2 failed in a whole lot of interesting ways. But still, it failed. Hermetically sealed farming of food crops in high worldwide demand is never likely to become a viable approach.
On the previous version of this site, all the article IDs were numeric and you could change them in the URL. There are a pile of articles that are either ready or near-ready from several authors. I read the killdozer and banana articles back during Alan’s last long hiatus. Dunno why it takes 4 months to finish one….
Hey Alan,
Just wanted to thank you for all the time and effort you’ve put into this website. I’ve pretty much read through the entire site and really appreciate what you’ve done and that you’ve had the courage to keep this website advertisement free (even though you probably could have made a bit of money from this thing).
There are not many people with principles left; it’s rare to actually find one.
I hope you feel better soon, mate.
agreed.
I was puled in by the “Sex Life of a Banana”.
Who knew fruit had sex?
Since there has been no new content for a while here is an article that I found DI
“$150 million Jungle Jackpot”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10590844
I miss you guys and your damn interesting content. I learned of Tesla’s awesomeness and that the American standards Champion toilet can flush some 40 golf balls in a single 1.3 gallon flush. Perhaps someday a new Pie of Damn Interesting Knowledge will again be placed in the oven.
hahaha you have no idea how awesome it is to see that still here!
Aww, I check and check, and still no article. I even bought the book. I’m going to assume the fetal position now, rock gently back and forth, and whimper until a new article is posted. If anyone needs me, I’ll be under the desk.
Okay, so I’m another long-time lurker who has decloaked in a crisis. I’m eagerly awaiting notification from Barnes & Noble that my copy of the book is available for pickup, so I’m official.
Also, big thanks to all the commenters on DI for making the comments just as readable as the articles. This is the only site where I read all the comments, usually without wanting to beat someone senseless-er.
Finally, I should probably comment on the actual article. You know you have problems with anxiety with things like this freak you out. I was all “Ohmygodtherewillbenobananaswhatinheckwillwedo” etc. I enjoy bananas as much as the next individual, but I really hope scientists put cancer ahead of bananas on the “Stuff to Fix” list.
My vote is URL change to: http://www.damnbanana.com
Hmm. I wonder if there already is a damnbanana.com?
1st!!! Ohhh wait….
LOL I just registered to say the exact same thing
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Thinking about you Allan…;)
Alan*…..sheesh!
thanks DA! this stuff came up as a question in my scholarship exam… owe you one!
One hundred and fifty-FIRST!
Miss your writing, Alan.
damn banana…I bought the durn book Al…c’mon, lets get it started
Sorry, this is completely off topic, but how do you who have them get the little pictures next to your names?
@MacAvity – go to http://www.gravatar.com and you’re on your way
So how exactly is selective breeding any different from genetic modification??? Can someone explain pls?
Selective breeding is the process of asking Mother Nature to give you certain characteristics. Genetic engineering is the process of bypassing Mother Nature and shoehorning a characteristic into an object. Using selective breeding to make a big dog takes years of breeding big dogs to other big dogs. Doing it with GE (at the moment) amounts to finding and switching on various big dog genes in an egg/sperm, impregnating a dog, and hoping to Christ that you don’t get a viral superdog that can blight bananas into extinction.
fixed it for you lol
ummm…..maybe if I have another cup of coffee?
He’s pointing out the sad reality that there are more $$ in viral superdogs than plain ol’ “big dogs”.
Just think: after $2 trillion worth of scratching their butts in Afghanistan, the US military will finally use that viral superdog to sniff out Bin Laden and save us all.
So it’s just a sped up version of selective breeding and hence, the same.
Whatever the spooky apocalyptic outcomes of GM we cannot survive without. It’s a fact that we cannot sustain a population of 9billion using normal food production techniques.
Thank you. Damn black hearts and greenbacks….we should go back to trading salt..:)
@161angryratman – it’s not the same. Not all (re-)combinations of genetic material are possible through selective breeding, so it’s conceivable that GM could produce something that would never result through a more natural process. That’s the worry. It may or may not be a well-founded worry (maybe GM will never result in anything more dangerous than what selective breeding could produce anyway) but the two are very different processes that are capable of producing different results.
OK. Fair point but it’s fair to say they are a lot more similar than most people would care to realise.
I honestly don’t see why people are so terrified of GM. They’re probably eating it and they don’t even know. Sweet irony.
True enough about some people worrying too much. Some kinds of GM are probably harmless, such as copying traits from different cultivars of the same species. It’s things like copying genes for bioluminescence from an insect and putting them into a vegetable that worry me. Like most politically-charged topics, I think too many people on both sides are taking things to an extreme. Pro-GM folks need to recognize that there are genuine dangers with what they’re proposing and that proper safeguards are in order, and the anti-GM folks need to recognize that technology isn’t always evil and can even help with problems like world hunger, environmental degradation, etc.
Used to eat my GM quite often, believe me we both knew it!…..LOL
This is becoming really interesting – checking in every day to see if a new article has been posted. I wonder how long it will be? Because I am a person who likes to see records broken, I am kind of hoping that the previous lapse of six months is exceeded.
More than that, though, I hope that Mr. Castle and the Brothers Bellows are okay.
I used to check this site constantly for its great writing and damn interesting stories. I was also considering purchasing the book, however since the operators of this site have completely neglected the site and no new content has appeared in months and that doesn’t seem like it will change any time soon. I will not only not be purchasing this book but I am also not going to visit this site anymore. You neglected your base of support which is the site not your book. Good job boys.
Finished “Alien Hand Syndrome”. It was a great read and I will be loaning it to my brother this weekend. Good job DI! Looking forward to a restart on the articles when you are ready.
Korbor:
I sincerely doubt that you would have ever bought the book. If you liked the writing as much as you claim, you would have bought the book already.
Oh bananas! Still no new posts.
I’m pretty sure it’s “Bellows & Son”, not “Brothers Bellows”… but my sentiments exactly. (Except that 6 month nonsense– I want content now.)
This is getting ridiculous. We know from the previous site that there are articles that are very close to finished. Why not post them until you get out of whatever is troubling you? I have bought another one of the books as a Christmas gift, but the people I’ve given books to are also wondering why the site is dead.
there is now!
check it:
http://www.damnbanana.com
I agree with Bananaman and Korbor. Enough is enough, or in this case, too little is too little. To preemptively defend my opinion; yes, I have bought the book, I have suggested many ways the site could be improved. Further, I am tired of the argument…..”It’s free, enjoy what is given to you, and don’t complain.” or similar. It is becoming increasingly evident that this site began as a whimsy, and then became an advertisement for the book. The book has (presumably) sold well, and the site has since been neglected. We, the readers, bought and recommended the book, and we deserve better treatment. This is not, and has not been for a long time, an altruistic endeavour. Enough faux loyalty. Post or lose customers (once called readers.).
Immpressive, but you are not a website, yet!
Eduardo:
You might very well be right, and I hope you are.
I am sick to death of everyone on the Internet expecting everything for free. I imagine that many of these same people also expect doctors, attorneys, and CPAs to work either for free or for a greatly reduced fee. That’s not the way life and economies work. Accept it.
Maybe the Misters Bellows and Mr. Castle did use this site to help push sales of their book. Great! I am a firm believer that people should pay for services and content.
As for what we “deserve,” the answer is nothing. If they publish another book, I’ll buy it, just as I did with books, newspapers, and (yes) albums in the old days before the Internet encouraged people to think that all printed information and music should be free.
Whoopee! Got my autographed copy of Alien Hand yesterday, just in time for my B-day tomorrow. Sweet! Thank , thank you, Alan, Jason and all the writers that made my wish come true. Ya’ll will all-ways be the most awesome people in this gals cyber world. Hugs and best wishes for a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah etc. and a fabulous New Year!
Anonymousx2,…you should have added,..”And you damned kids get off my lawn!”
:P
Along with a “Dadgum it, you young whippersnappers,” I assume?
If I could make anything happen on this site, I would point you all here: https://www.damninteresting.com/the-christmas-truce-of-1914
I remember signing yours … Alan, Bryan and I had all met for dinner, and were desperately trying to keep buffalo sauce from the pages. Ah, those were other days.
I have been reading DI for a couple of years now and have made my way through the archives. I just picked up a copy of the book for myself and one for a Christmas gift for my dad. Thanks DI, I can’t wait to pour through it.
I haven’t bothered to register because I never have much to add that the articles or the subsequent posts don’t cover so there wasn’t really a point to it. I finally registered to post this comment in order to weigh in on the ongoing “lack of articles” discussion. Nobody “deserves” anything from the brothers and if there is never another article I will still remember the site fondly because, well, it is truly Damn Interesting.
I would like to echo the suggestion that maybe the reigns get turned over to parties that will keep the site going. I am sure it would make all of us readers happier, and it would continue to advertise the book. Seems like a win win to me.
I am a long time Guns n’ Roses fan. Great band with great music and damn interesting personalities. Unfortunately Axl had to have things just so and the rest is history. Several of the other members formed Velvet Revolver. Another good band that had some of the same feel and an obvious tie back to the original name. Maybe those of you who keep suggesting topics for articles can take a crack at it. Maybe a new site “über interesting” will take shape.
Till then…
Ha! Now I know why my book smelled like ribs, lol.
Here ya go honey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eysUcfdAszQ
A belated Happy Holidays to everyone at Damn Interesting! The two books I gave as Christmas presents have already been thoroughly enjoyed. Hope you all can come back soon!
Damn I miss the Interesting posts here, but at least the comments section is alive.
I think Eduardo was being a bit extreme a few dozen posts back, but he has a bit of a right though to still be annoyed. The site definitely was updated with the promise of more materials and in support of the book. We’ve been still staring at the story of lab horny bananas since August which was 4 months ago. Kejawa had a good point there, something should be done perhaps like what went down with GnR->Velvet Revolver. Jason a few posts ago before Christmas linked up the old WW1 Christmas truce, seems he would have even liked the permissions to link an oldie but a goodie up for the holidays and couldn’t. I recall Matt also wanted to update again as well after the banana lovin’ so really you got 2 of the 3 primary staff wanting to carry on. Maybe there is a need for an “über interesting” website to carry forward, or at least get the permissions changed so other staff can keep it alive and let Alan retire in peace where people will leave him alone and stop bitching.
DAMN IRRITATING
In the damninteresting article “The Last Great Steam Car”, Alan Bellow mentions this site called “Interesting Thing of the Day” http://itotd.com . If you’re hungry for articles, scoot over there and have a semester long fiesta, instead of hanging about here, bellyaching.
But I understand completely. The comments section here is the best thing, with all the good thoughtfull comments, and you don’t find that level of intellect in the comments section on other sites. Not to mention the “you are a moron, and you can [insert random senseless action of masochism] because I am of a different opinion” type of comments that the rest of the internet is pestered by. Kejawa’s sugestion is good.
FIRST!!
Okay, so, we haven’t seen a DI post since last August. What happened guys? Lose your Damn Interest? We miss you. We miss DI. (gripe-gripe, bellyache-bellyache)
hi y’all
I just registered, but I’ve read like 99.99% of the archives(“server unavailable” excluded a couple), so I hope this hasn’t already been covered. I found the “Snow-Motor” from 1926 in a couple of places and thought it was D.I. go to… http://oilpunk.com/ & under categories select -history(8) scroll down to snow motor from 1926 & play the LIVELEAK vid. Or, http://www.notechmagazine.com/page/9/; might also be @http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/. Btw there’s a bit other of D.I. stuff at these sites…
I too, am anxiously awaiting a new post from the Bellows clan, their writing is excellent,witty,informative,etc.
This site brings together a myriad of D.I. topics from far & wide, compiling it all, right here, for our enjoyment & really, nothing is asked in return. IMHO ya shouldn’t look a gift horse in the teeth/mouth.
Thank you & happy holidays/Best wishes to the D.I. staff
J.W.
I have recently purchassed the DI book and i am enjoying it greatly and has made my enjoyment of DI far better.
I wasn’t going to do anything about it, but seeing as it is a few days into the near year and no one else has caught on…
2010 FIRST!!!
Ok, write a new fucking article, or get rid of the site.
p.s. purchased the book, and have been a long time reader of the site. It took the most recent unexplained hiatus for me to actually register and post.
Is that a banana sex pun?
definitely a banana sex pun.
Still.. I cry a little bit every time I see that banana staring me down…
Rather than swear at the brothers Bellows, how about we just plead and beg for the site control to be handed to Jason who obviously still checks the site!
Agreed: please, please I plead and beg that the control of the site gets handed over to or at least shared with Jason Bellows
200th!
So Nice And Informative too but specially last photo is dam goood
Funny, I have to agree with post #188 “the comments section here is the best thing,” because there seems to be nothing else going on over here. When I first became acquainted with DI there were two new posts a week and sometimes three. Don’t get me wrong, I too love writing and wit of the Bellows brood, but inconsistency has left a bad taste, especially when July 15th of last year Alan announced that the drought was over, and fans of DI were rewarded with a flood of, wait, uhh, three articles in six months. Wow. Damn Interesting how that can be called a hiatus being over.
Okay, that’s all the whining I will do. I love this site and the creative writing of the articles. I await the next post, and until then will continue to read the fascinating comments of others that also return here with baited breath, if even just to read the comments of the faithful.
I agree with this spoon guy here, i haven’t seen a new article since i discovered this site.
Although i’m still busy reading through all the archive stuff :)
hey, i just wanted to say that i found this article really interesting. i also wanted to say thank you, because for my gcse english coursework we needed to make a speech about something interesting. i wrote mine about this subject and i got an A*! anyway, thanks, and a new article would be appreciated if you’ve got the time but really you don’t get paid for this so i can’t complain :)
Hello, bored sentient beings. I recently – this afternoon actually – discovered – was shown – found out about – this, which though lacking the advantage of being an official Damn Interesting article, is at least intellectually entertaining enough to briefly quell the complaints of those who honestly seek new stories of the more curious aspects of the world, if not of those who just like to gripe.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/spider-silk/
not a bad article…almost damn interesting…wonder if PETA has a problem with tying the bugs down and yanking their stuff out…there’s a gal down here in Texas that got caught bringing a real beetle across the border with jewelry glued to its body and she was using it as a broach…PETA was screaming that it was torture….sheesh
DI on the importance of failsafes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/health/24radiation.html
Hey everybody! Or at least, ‘Hey to those loyal enough to DI that they still check up on new comments…’
I was thinking that instead of complaining about the lack of articles, we could put our money(time? energy? effort?) where our mouth(keyboard? computer?) is(was? (okay I’m done)), and start writing articles of our own! Far-be-it from any of us to criticize the Bellows bros. for falling behind on a website that they provide free of charge and for nothing in return, so let’s do some contributing of our own!
I see some people already got to it with links to other websites, but I think the neatest thing to do would be to get up, stretch our typing muscles, crack our fingers and whatever else there is, and get down to business and write some legitimate articles, here!
I have found some interesting articles myself, and will do my best to put out at least one full length article disguised as a comment.
Many questions arise, like:
–Should there be restrictions set, like length? Subject matter? Citing sources?
No; maybe; and abso-freaking-lutely! Anyone crazy enough to jump on this bandwagon needs to cite their sources. Which ironically is my least favorite part, but credit needs to given where credit is due!
–What kind of jerk is this to just hijack the famous Bellows’ website of DI??
I never want to suddenly take over anyone’s job. But I want to do whatever I can to ensure the life of this website as a place to go for interesting facts, so why not contribute? If anyone in charge of the site asks, I’ll gladly stop.
–Will anybody even read what’s getting written?
Who knows? Who cares? Someone will. That someone will be your biggest fan!!
–Will anybody be joining me?
Who knows? I think it’d be awesome to have a small community form here. Are you.. dear reader, up to the challenge??
–this is a ridiculously long post for someone just suggesting people contribute articles of their own.
I was kinda bored. I’ll spend more energy writing something now. Keep checking back here!
Join me, will you?
Hi Misfit,
It is a good idea, but why not just go to blogger and start your own site?
Post comments here to say you have a new entry if you like, so people get used to looking at your blog.
Except for comments, this site is dead. The domain will expire on 2010-07-29 10:37:52. (http://www.whois.net/whois/damninteresting.com).
It seems like taking over the comments, is like buying a ticket for a sinking ship.
I liked this site, but unfortunately the writers seem to have other interests (which is their right).
o_p_d
Wowww good morning all,
I was just reading Misfit his comment, and felt really good about his idea.
Because i had that same thought of contributing here more then only comments since the originally writers asks us to drop a article, but i did not came to it yet since I am doing some more research.
So again very pleased to read about Misfit’s idea my attention came to the next comment from O_P_D.
And he is probably right about that DI is going to expire at the end of Juli .
I sure hope not when i went to this site, i don’t know how O_P_D found it but that doesn’t matter now
http://www.whois.net/whois/damninteresting.com you can find all the info from Allen Bellows.
I immediately called him he did not answer but I did leave a message on his voice mail to clarify if it is so that his site is going to expire half of 2010 and that he should put down a comment on DI about it.
I know I just came to this site a week ago, but if it would be me this site should never expire it is great info and when we all are going to contribute with articles it could survive forever. My suggestion is to write a short message to Allen Bellows , this is his mail address, alan@alanbellows.com to keep his site up even if we all have to pay a little contribution for it.
I don’t know how much it cost to keep this site up but if I would need to pay a little for it I sure would do it.
I just sent him this message,,,
Hi Allen, Friday, 01-29-2010
This is Frank G I would like to ask you to keep your site up after, Juli – 29 – 2010.
Your site is great and should last forever.
Please let us know what the future for Damn Interesting is after that date.
Sincerely, Frank G
So people let’s do our part and urge the owners of this great info/entertaining site to keep it ALIVE!!!
Thanks for your input, O_P_D and Misfit
Greetsss,,, Frank G
@Misfit- I love the idea!
@one_plaid_day- Could it be that the Bellows just haven’t renewed their domain yet? I mean, I don’t usually renew mine until a month or two before it expires.
I sure hope that is the case….
It isn’t my intent to be critical. However, I also don’t think it is good to put pressure on the owners of the site to keep adding content if they can’t or don’t want to…
And having a new place to go, with updated content, would be “DI”.
Man just got off the phone with DI staff. They’re in a real fix.
Bellows came up with a 16 mo. article buffer after writing the book. It was completely wiped out by a virus. It seems he perpetually suckered chutes from his older articles to breed his new ones. Usually by taking a paragraph taken from the previous article, changing all of the nouns, and then dumping it in as the seed paragraph of the current article. It saved time on writing. But one little virus hit and the whole crop went kablooie.
Last I heard, they were trying to come up with a new strain by crossbreeding the banana sex article with the Marvin Heemeyer article. All’s they’ve come up with so far is ‘Bulldozer Sex in Granby’, which despite being DI, isn’t really up to the site’s standards.
Anyway, we can only hope they figure this thing out before we’re left living in a bananaless, damn uninteresting world. If you can even call that ‘living’.
The banana article has found new life in China, where a pop-sci news site (one of the NetEase.com portal sites) published an edited translation on January 21.
http://discover.news.163.com/10/0121/08/5THPNOJH000125LI.html
Virgil Syonid 30 January 2010 at 02:22 pm • In response to The Unfortunate Sex Life of the Banana
Hee Virgil,
You wrote your comment bellow here and I don’t know if your joking or not but it is not funny.
If you want to comment here then give it some more content, instead of just being cynical.
Frank G.
Bah. Everyone’s a critic. :)
If you can’t tell the difference between ‘crossbreeding articles’ and reality, perhaps you’d feel more comfortable policing the comments at damninteresting4kids.com.
Most of us wrote messages to Mr. Bellows months ago. And we did him the service of actually spelling his name right.
ahhh.
Good old DI.
In a hectic world of ultra-fast updates of services like twitter, where there’s hardly any time to breathe and things are changing way too quickly, it gives me a fuzzy warm feeling to see the familiar banana glowing right at me, each and every time I visit. Contrary to what the article might suggest, bananas are here to stay!
And I for one am glad for that. After all, what could give you more comfort, more reassurance, more peace than seeing this haven of stability?
Hi VIRGIL,
Yes my bad that i wrote Alan wrong, but it still concerns me that DI expires on Juli – 29 – 2010.
Look here >>> http://www.whois.net/whois/damninteresting.com
Frank G.
I share your concern, Frank. But I imagine that Mr. Bellows knows pretty well he has an avid fan base. If his heart’s not in it, his heart’s not in it.
Best we can do is add our own encouragement, links, knickknacks, and absurdities into the comments to make it worthwhile for the average DI devotee to check back every once in a while.
If the domain name expires, you might consider scooping it up right away on the offchance that Mr. Bellows is just indisposed and wants it back later. Better that than some lowlife squatting on it.
Phhht. Somebody actually went and registered http://www.damnbanana.com after #174.
There’s fan involvement for ya.
This is a little teaser, about the article that i am working on now.
At the end of 2008 experts didn’t really have an idea how our mobility is going to be in 2088.
I don’t have a clue either, but i am not a expert.
It takes some minutes to download but enjoy it.
To be continued.
Mobility 2088: http://dreams.honda.com/videos/mobility-2088/
Frank G
This is a little teaser, about the article that i am working on now.
At the end of 2008 experts didn’t really have an idea how our mobility is going to be in 2088.
I don’t have a clue either, but i am not a expert. What i do know is that,
I am very aware about the future of ???
It takes some minutes to download but enjoy it.
To be continued.
Mobility 2088: http://dreams.honda.com/videos/mobility-2088/
Frank G
> The domain will expire on 2010-07-29
The alternate domain “DarnInteresting.com”, also owned by Mr. Bellows, is set to expire on March 17.
Thanks for the wonderfull link Frank G. I really enjoyed those movies.
Your welcome Haffa,
This amazing site is giving me every day more inspiration to write and explore the Net.
I hope I can post my article here soon via Alan or via a comment.
Frank G
You guys might like http://appleswitcher.com/forum/ Register to see General Chat, which is where the fun discussions are. Thick skin required, not for everybody, but if it’s a fit it’s a great place. Humor, smart opinions, cynicism and more.
How to merchandise food products, I know that without exception, manufacturing companies are using pesticides. They can eat bananas, but in moderation. Otherwise, they may be poisonous. Take care of your health. http://www.contestswinmoney.info
This site reminds me of B. F. Skinner’s box experiment… an inconsistent reward produces long-term repetitive behavior to check the operandum, just in case _this_ is the lucky day. But it isn’t. (sigh)
i always knew bananas were sexy!
i’m goin to go home and eat one right now.
I understand that this is run by an individual or a small group of individuals, but this is really just ridiculous. I’ve noticed several people stating that no one here is entitled to new content and whatever the creators or writers are willing to put forth is fine but that is only partially true. You would not have a book without the fans you have/had of this site. They’re really deserving of at least some of the credit for the success and to simply abandon them is frankly just disrespectful. When you take on a public project like this you also take on a certain loyalty to your fans just as they develop a loyalty towards you. Alan Bellows or whoever are simply uninterested in meeting those obligations to a fan base. I mean I can’t believe it’s been nearly 6 months, and you haven’t even published new content, or at the very least published updates as to what is going on on your main page. It’s quite clear your priorities don’t lie with rewarding your fans for all their support and any sinking in readership or revenue this site or your book receives from your lack of commitment is quite well-deserved.
Done here.
Hi Uninvisible,
I share your vision on this, it’s a waist to let a good site like this just run out and see only comments on here and no more new articles I am working on a large article but am afraid it won’t be put out here on this site.
the site is great and the story’s are better then a lot of other stories on site’s.
What i would suggest for now is to bombard Alan Bellows with EMAILS to keep this site up after Juli and update us what’s going on, and why he is not responding anymore. I know for sure he read’s here sometimes, because his private info from this site was suddenly gone
http://www.whois.net/whois/damninteresting.com
This is Alan’s EMAIL address alan@alanbellows.com so let us all write him to keep this site up and ask for a comment from Alan or one of his associates.
Greetttzzz, Frank G
Nagging isn’t very persuasive.
But Jaaasssssooonnnnn we want the damn interesting site, Jaaaaaaason come on Jaaaaaason come on.
HEY JASON BELLOWS,,,
Your reaction to my comment, >>> “” Nagging isn’t very persuasive. “” is not very MATURE !!!
Why don’t you and your Brother explain some things to a very loyal group of Fans here ?
You guys did not post for 6 months here and on questions about the site if it is going to be here after Juli 2010, and if we can submit an article here.
It give me the impression that after the release of your great book, you guys don’t care so much anymore about the site. And that’s a shame leaving a bunch of people in the dark. I am not NAGGING, just asking for some answers and according to a lot of comments here I am not the only one, SO PROVE ME WRONG and give me and your other LOYAL readers some answers !!!
With all respect to you Jason and Your Brother Alan,
Sincerely, Frank G
But you, without asking, are publicizing what is probably Alan’s personal e-mail address (yes, I know you can find it online) and inviting people to “bombard him” with messages, asking questions which are probably rather personal considering his comment which you can find in the comments section on this page. This is the epitome of maturity, I take it.
I feel somewhat slighted that there’s nothing new on this site, but there’s nothing new on here for a reason and there’s nothing I can do about it, by any means. I’m not sure I want to know what’s going on, either, and to try to force a comment out of someone whom I could only guess you must have some amount of respect for is hugely disrespectful. And if you have respect for him then you should bugger off and give him his privacy and time to get over whatever he’s dealing with. If the site goes down after July, then so be it (although it would be a significant loss).
I can assure you, though, you are being really nagging and Alan doesn’t owe us any answers as the site is free. If they didn’t care about the site they wouldn’t check in at all.
So I encourage you to NOT harass Alan and if he wants he’ll respond here telling us what’s up. Given how long it has been, I’d just as soon assume he doesn’t want to tell us, and there probably will not be another article here for a long time, if ever. I think the sooner you accept that, the happier you will be. However, if you have not already, I highly suggest you read all of the stories in the archive. I’ve read everything except for some of the stories about weapons. They did a lot of stories about weapons for a while.
Thanks to Alan, Jason and the rest for providing me with stuff to read fairly non-stop for about a year. It’s been a year since I read through all of the archives and obviously I come back and check every now and again. Sometimes I’ll read a random article, too, which–when I don’t remember it–can be pretty satisfying.
Hellooo to DamnAwesome !!!
Seems like you got a short fuse huh, and of all things that are considered life’s enjoyments I am the most Happy person on this planet, it has nothing to do with nagging, it has to do with obligation since this site is here for the people who love this site it is not more then normal to have some feedback from it’s owners at a certain point.
Again how I see it and again prove me wrong on this, >> when the book came out, the articles were out.
and that is for me unacceptable, and thankfully we live in a free country with free opinion.
With all respect to you, Frank G
Jason, I think Frank was trying to be helpful. He, like myself and many others miss the DI updates.
Obviously there is still some activity, you’ve managed to post here, and your brother posts to facebook regularly, so from a concern for fellow human perspective, all is well.
There are plenty of other sites (cakewrecks, postsecret) which have similar fanbases, and when they produce a book, they still keep their site running, so why not DI? Are there no more DI stories to be covered? Has Alan simply decided to move on? Is he so overwhelmed by book-activities that he’s simply had to take DI on an unexpected hiatus?
If I can step in between Frank G and DamnAwesome’s little discussion, Alan’s email address is entirely public. Anyone can do a whois, anyone can find him on facebook. It is not quite the same as publically giving out his home address…
I don’t think Alan, Jason, or anyone involved in DI owes anyone anything, unlike the aforementioned sites which depend virtually entirely on user supplied material, Alan and others did the research and writing themselves. If Alan decides he’d rather just do whatever he is doing, rather than write and give away work for free, surely that is okay?
But surely it’s also okay for DI’s fans to think an occasional update, or at least a goodbye wouldn’t overstress anyone?
This link does not need any extra comment but it fits well at this place at this moment enjoy, all.
Thank to my wife Jill,
http://www.dailygood.org/more.php?n=4024
Frank G.
VERY WELL SAID, whqttt .
Hey Guys don’t get me wrong here i do not want to be disrespectful towards anyone.
The effort the writers took to make a awesome site here is totally appreciated and far and beyond better then most other sites.
But besides my wish, lots of other readers would like this site to continue.
Frank G
Its different story of banana.
http://www.stretchmarkscare.com
I do have a bit of a short fuse, I’ll admit. However, I feel that as that is not the e-mail associated with this website for correspondence with Alan (alan@damninteresting.com), you shouldn’t post it. Since it’s out on the Web it’s probably not his personal e-mail address (I may have stated that rather hastily), but regardless, he might not want to be bombarded with e-mails persistently asking why this site isn’t being updated. But that’s not for me to say, either, I can’t speak for anyone here.
If you wanna be real damn nit-picky about things, the book was published in July, and they released three articles that month and then had one more in August, so they did at least one after the release of the book. Further, he commented in October. Did you read that comment? To me it sounded as though he was basically saying he had lost his inspiration somehow.
So then to come here and read people saying things to the effect of “Alan Bellows or whoever are simply uninterested in meeting those obligations to a fan base” (a la uninvisible) simply because they’re not posting is somewhat annoying. In my opinion the reward to the fans for reading and being dedicated and all of that good stuff is getting a book out of it. Beyond that there is no obligation, they said a book and they delivered. I’m aware they also said more articles a long time ago but obviously something changed.
Beyond all of that, this site is not their main source of revenue. I don’t know if they’re making money off of the book or not and I also have no idea how many shirts, mugs and water bottles they’re selling. But I doubt it’s paying their bills. People donated money so they could publish the book and have donated so they could keep the site online, but I feel Alan met an obligation with that when he posted the previously mentioned comment. It’s one thing to say that Jon Stewart has an obligation to do a show Monday through Thursday, but quite another to say that someone who likes to write interesting articles and posts them from time to time online has the same obligation. They’re not under contract as far as I’m aware.
I don’t do the Facebook or Twitter stuff, I’m just not interested in it, so I’ve no idea what Alan says on there.
It’s totally okay to -want- an update and to want to know what’s going on. But if they haven’t told us then maybe it’s none of our business.
So yeah, you can feel as you like about all of this, that’s fine I suppose–I’ll just also feel how I do about it. And I feel that it’s quite rude to say it’s “unacceptable” for them to not tell you all of the what’s and why’s of this site. I certainly don’t think it’s a good way of going about trying to get them to post an article you’re writing on this site :)
DamnAwesome,,,
Life is full of critics and I am just one of them, as of now I consider this matter/subject for a respond from one of the writers as closed.
There are more important things in life then to deepen this out. So be it !!!
I think the “”message”” from this moment on came over, and yes twitter and Face book are more important
for Alan at this moment, and that’s his good right.
You should look at it Alan is putting interesting stories there now.
**********************************************************************
To educate yourself for the feeling of gratitude means to take
nothing for granted, but to always seek out and value the kind
that will stand behind the action. Nothing that is done for you
is a matter of course. Everything originates in a will for the
good, which is directed at you. Train yourself never to put off
the word or action for the expression of gratitude.
**********************************************************************
Sincerely, Frank G
Enter your comment here.
Nice Frank G:)
I think one of the problems we have here, is that people have not read Alans comment or have forgotten about it:
Now, we don’t know what’s going on, it could be VERY serious, death in the family and whatnot, or he’s just fed up with this page. Either way, the man says he is experiencing some personal difficulties. And, bearing this in mind, no one should be contacting him without having a damn good reason.
Frank you’re being a tool.
246th!! Just checking in, looking at the Damn Interesting Comments. Don’t pester Mr. Bellows, thats low. Surely there are better things to contribute to the faithful few that read these comments that to tear down the one that has brought us all together? I say, “thanks Alan, keep getting better!”
Did you know forks were invented in the seventh century?
Same to you Ron,
Again a free world, with free opinions.
Frank G.
Oh and by the way RON ,
Don’t try to be interesting by your word choice because your not,
if you have something on your mind about me just say it in plain English.
So stop trying to be a wiseguy.
Frank G
Frank, I think something may have been lost in the cultural translation. Ron wasn’t trying to be wiseguy, he was trying to tell you that you are being an annoying arsehole. Your irritating use of RaNdom CapiTals for EMPHASIS is only one of the problems. You have overstepped the mark and are speaking for people who do not wish you to do so; and worse…. you’re doing it badly.
Exhibit A
“Life is full of critics and I am just one of them, as of now I consider this matter/subject for a respond from one of the writers as closed.
There are more important things in life then to deepen this out. So be it !!!”
What on earth is that supposed to mean?
Frank, I’m sure you are going to post some half-baked, essentially meaningless retort; so, please, try and at least make it intelligible.
Is that plain enough for you?
Your just another one who is so full of it.
Don’t judge me by my word choice.
Frank G
I have just realised that i was the last person to comment on this article in 2009.
get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta love this site, the comments are more entertaining than the DI stories.
Where do some of you guys get off? Alan has no obligation what so ever to entertain you free of charge at your demand. Who the hell do you think you are?
He has explained the situation, personal issues to deal with, he didn’t have to do that. We’re not his freinds or family. He did it out of respect. If you don’t like it….. go away. That simple.
Rant off
Frank G said: “Oh and by the way RON ,
Don’t try to be interesting by your word choice because your not,
if you have something on your mind about me just say it in plain English.
So stop trying to be a wiseguy.
Frank G”
I don’t get this, did you not understand what I meant by being a tool? I’m truly curious here.
Maybe it’s wise for some commentator’s here to read this, and not be so opinionated.
Promise Yourself
To be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.
To talk health, happiness, and prosperity to every person you meet.
To make all your friends feel that there is something worthwhile in them.
To look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism come true.
To think only of the best, to work only for the best and to expect only the best.
To be just as enthusiastic about the success of others as you are about your own.
To forget the mistakes of the past and press on to the greater achievements of the future.
To wear a cheerful expression at all times and give a smile to every living creature you meet.
To give so much time to improving yourself that you have no time to criticize others.
To be too large for worry, too noble for anger, too strong for fear, and too happy to permit the presence of trouble.
To think well of yourself and to proclaim this fact to the world, not in loud word, but in great deeds.
To live in the faith that the whole world is on your side, so long as you are true to the best that is in you.
I have no grudge against anyone.
Frank G
happy valentines day DI!
I still love you XD
Banana Car
(work in progress):
http://www.BigBananaCar.com/
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_intelligencer/the_intelligencer_news_details/article/27/2010/february/07/going-bananas.html
Love your book, DI.
I hope you you’re doing alright, Alan. Sounds tough. :)
ti83 15 February 2010 at 02:29 pm • In response to The Unfortunate Sex Life of the Banana
Love your book, DI.
I hope you you’re doing alright, Alan. Sounds tough. :)
ALAN is doing fine.
I agree with you Eduardo. While I am sure we all feel a little let down by the lack of new articles, harassing Alan and whining on here is not going to get anything new posted.
Oh and here is a short story I found to be DI , lets keep the keep the comments constructive guys.
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html
and its wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel
Wow, talking about environmental friendly lighting.
Check this out if this is going to be realized in the near future, it would save a lot of energy for us all.
http://www.livescience.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=090203_nxtp_hybridsolar
Frank G
I so want hybrid lighting. What a simple and brilliant idea! And with additional solar panels, wind power, triple-glass windows and super insulated walls, fossil energy would finally be unnecessary. There are already modern houses in Scandinavia that are so well isolated, that the heat from the lightbulbs is all that is needed to keep them warm all year round (although currently they have encountered a problem; Normal lightbulb production and sale has been banned in inside the EU).
This is way closer to becoming a practical sound solution for the present than alternative energy vehicles. With vehicles, weight, portability (duh!) and size must be held at practical minimum, but not so with a house. Makes me so very excited!
I found this site in September of 2009, and have spent many hours reading thru the archives. Sadly I just read the last article now.
I have to say, this site provided me with many hours of enjoyment and enlightenment, both from the written articles and the comments other readers have made. This site lasted longer in reading time than any book I have read, with the added bonus of it all being free! And not to mention mostly DI!
I’d like to say “Thanks” to Alan and to all the writers who have contributed over the years, for giving me some fantastic reading. Its been an absolute pleasure from start to finish :)
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE !!! WHY DO WE CIVILIANS SEE THEM AND THE OFFICIALS NOT !!!
(OR DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEM?)
Britain releases new UFO files
February 18, 2010 5:49 a.m. EST
London, England (CNN) — A hovering Toblerone and a silky-white residue join near-misses and strange lights in the British government’s latest release of its files on UFO sightings.
Made public Thursday, the files are the fifth collection of records about unidentified flying objects to be released by the Ministry of Defense and The National Archives as part of a project to open the files up to a wider audience.
Thursday’s release is the largest so far, totaling more than 6,000 pages of material from 1994 to 2000.
The files include a sighting by a man in Birmingham, England, in March 1997. He said he came home from work at 4 a.m. to see a large blue triangle-shaped craft hovering over his back garden.
It was silent but caused dogs in the neighborhood to bark, the report said. It “shot off and disappeared” after about three minutes, the report said, leaving behind a “silky-white substance” on the treetops, some of which he saved in a jar.
It was not clear what happened to the jar and its contents.
Another document, from January 1997, is about a man driving home through south Wales one night when he saw “a ‘tube of light’ coming down from the sky,” which at first seemed like a “massive star” coming toward him.
The man’s mobile phone and car radio failed, the report said, and the man got out of his car and was able to walk through the light. It said he got back in his car but started feeling sick, and he soon developed a skin condition for which he had to see a doctor.
His car was left covered in dirt and dust, the report said.
Other reports are about sightings by groups of people, including one from August 1997 in which five members of a fishing trawler in the North Sea reported seeing a round, flat, shiny object hovering in the sky.
They saw it both with the naked eye and through binoculars, with the report noting, “witness very skeptical of UFOs.” They tracked the object on their radar for several seconds before it vanished, the report said.
Police officers in Boston, England, and Skegness — both on England’s east coast, caught a UFO on video at the same time that the Royal Air Force (RAF) detected an “unidentified blip” on their radar, the files show.
It happened in October 1996, when the officers saw “strange rotating red, blue, green and white flashing lights in the sky,” the report said. A ship in The Wash, a bay near Boston, also saw the lights, and at the same time RAF air defense radars picked up the blip over Boston, the report said.
Press coverage of the incident led the RAF to look into the lights, later identifying some as stars and bright planets, and attributing the radar blip to a “permanent echo” created by a nearby church spire.
The release highlights how the reported shapes of UFOs have changed during the past half-century, the National Archives said. Many of the reports in the latest file describe UFOs as big, black and triangular, whereas reports from the 1940s and ’50s tended to be about saucers or disc-shaped objects, they said.
“In the 1950s the next big leap in technology was thought to be a round craft that took off vertically, and it’s intriguing to note that this is the same period when people began to report seeing ‘flying saucers’ in the sky,” said David Clarke, author of a book called The UFO Files and a journalism lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University.
He pointed out that in the years covered by the latest file release, triangle-shaped U.S. stealth bombers and Aurora spy planes featured heavily on TV shows like “The X-Files” and movies like Independence Day.
“It’s impossible to prove a direct link between what people are reading and watching and what they report as UFOs, but one interpretation could be that the latest advances in technology may be influencing what people see in the sky,” he said.
A craving for chocolate may have influenced another sighting, that of a “Toblerone-shaped” UFO hovering over Annandale, Scotland, in July 1994. The Toblerone is a triangular-shaped Swiss chocolate candy bar. The files include a sketch of the object, which showed it as 35-40 feet long and about 20 feet wide.
It hovered silently about 10 feet above a field with no lights and was “observed for at least 40 minutes,” the report said.
The release also contains several incidents involving UFOs and aircraft, such as a near-miss that happened in January 1995 when a British Airways Boeing 737 was approaching Manchester airport. The captain and a crew member saw the object, but an investigation by the Civil Aviation Authority failed to identify it, the report said.
An airliner near Glasgow Airport saw white and red flashing lights in December 1996, but the report simply concluded there was no RAF activity in the area at the time.
NOTE FROM ME;
My take on all this is,,, that there is more between HEAVEN AND EARTH,
I believed in UFO’s at the moment I was old enough to understand about them, and my wife encountered a sighting.
So when she came to me very excited about what she saw in 2007 on a clear night, lights in a triangle formation coming towards her and then suddenly disappear, I BELIEVED HER!
Frank G
link to see the pic and story from CNN,
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/17/ufo.files/index.html?hpt=C1
Frank. FRANK! You are truly a wanker. Can you not find somewhere else to post your strange rantings? Perhaps the UFO’s can provide you with an interested audience.
I’m being Damn patient, waiting for another Damn article. But having a Damn good time reading all the Damn comments. Hope to have Damn good read before too Damn long.
P.S. Would someone shut the Damn door so all the Damn idiots will stop coming in?
Why don’t you shut up with your smart ass arrogant comments here, Eduardo and Lilac!!!
I just wanted to show here a nice article from CNN and give my take on it.
So what’s your problem ?
Frank G
You are, Frank. You are my problem. You blew in a month ago, a stupidity storm sweeping through an otherwise pleasant website. Since then there have been, count ’em, 20 of your nonsensical posts. Semi-literate bullshit. You remind me of that annoying kid we all went to school with, the guy who ruled his little chess club or similar with an iron fist. A legend in his own lunchbox. Isn’t there a village somewhere missing you, Frank?
WoW, you really have a problem with yourself , hahaha i suggest that you read this article again.
The Unburdened Mind, your scary
Frank G
I’m sorry, Frank. I forget sometimes that you’re not too bright, and that I need to walk you through things. My problem is with you. You can see evidence of this If you just cast your eyes upward from your latest badly-written rubbish.
Thank you though, Frank, for a moment there I started feeling guilty. I realised that you are just a poor simpleton, and not really responsible for your own actions, and that maybe I should go easy on you. However, when reading your reply, I was reminded that being an idiot is no excuse, and you truly are a repulsive and almost breathtakingly annoying bloke. Do me a favour Frank, just be quiet for a while.
You are the problem Eduardo. Stop heckling Frank. You’re the one dragging this thread down to youtube level with your arrogance and aggressiveness! Go take a cold shower and pull yourself together.
Thank you, Haffa
I will be the wise one and won’t react anymore to him
Again thanks, Frank G
Frank, this was my first post ever on here, and I didn’t mention any names. I don’t appreciate being called smart ass and arrogant, when you don’t even know me. I don’t think your posts are informative or interesting, but it’s not my place to say it on a public forum open to everyone. I’ll just read the good ones and skip over yours.
My sincere apologies to you Lilac,
Frank G
I like that he called Frank a wanker. Being American its not a word I here often but I appreciate the automatic hilarity in it.
Frank. The idea of UFO’s is not very rational. Albeit not inpossible, I don’t believe it warrants any serious discussion on a site designed to promote stimulating conversation. So I will refer you to this: https://www.damninteresting.com/space-radio-more-static-less-talk
I think this speaks volumes about any UFO sighting. That and the fact that I would never trust another Human Being when it comes to personal experience. I am an Evidence guy. Toblerone? Give me a frickin break. Incidentally, I am now going to go buy a delicious toblerone!
“Wow, you really have a problem with yourself. I suggest that you read ‘The Unburdened Mind’ again.
You’re scary.”
Fixed. WoW is a video game, and thus not relevant to this discussion. The pronoun “I” is always capitalized. Titles of books, movies, and articles should be either underlined or put in quotation marks. “Your” is the possessive form of you, so y0u must have been talking about a thing of his that was scary. What you used was just a sentence fragment, and made no sense.
I would like to direct you to a book I’ve found to be very interesting: http://www.textbooks-4sale.com/english-93-textbook-to-the-point-ingleside-sfsu-ccsf-40/
Anyway, I’ve been reading this website for years. I’ve never ventured into the comments, but the articles were always very thought provoking, and certainly Damn Interesting! They helped prepare me for a few of my college level history classes. It was great knowing a subject before actually getting into it.
My sympathies to Alan – I know what it is like to lose your creative spark, and I hope you regain yours eventually!
So I HAVe A NOTHER personn here ( zeemayla ) who now,,, has a problemmm with my grammar!!!
Keepsss on getting more funniier evvvrrrry time.
Get a life,
Frank G
Generally speaking, when one purchases a book, that person does not require a website full of perpetually delivered free content to accompany it. When you purchased this book, did it not have any meaningful content within it to compensate you for the money you had spent on it? In saying that, do you not believe that the purchase of this book is fair compensation for the hard work that was put into its contents? This is the general concept that drives our economy. Do you get angry when a commercial ceases to exist after you have purchased the product?
As the saying goes, there is no such thing as a free lunch, but when there is, don’t bitch about what it is and how large the serving is, be happy that you got it in the first place.
The End of the World?
It sounds odd to begin a new year by talking about the end of the world, but it does grab your attention! At the end of every year there are always predictions about the end of the world. As a little girl growing up in the outskirts of Portland, Oregon, I remember that when we went into the big city I would often see a man standing on the street corner holding up a sign that said the end of the world was near. Not to give away my age, but that was quite a few years ago. So, if the end of the world was near, his idea of near was not my idea of near!
It is amazing how we have such a preoccupation with the end of the world. Nostradamus, the famous 16th century French seer, the Bible with its Armageddon, and now 2012, the end of the Mayan calendar, all prophesize the end of the world. There has been a lot of talk about a cataclysmic event happening to change the world, but why does that have to be a bad thing? Why is the end of something a threat? Why can’t it simply be the end of one experience and the birth of a new experience? Much like the way a caterpillar goes into its cocoon only to come out as a butterfly. The caterpillar’s death is the butterfly’s birth. No one is too upset about that because we know that its life continues on.
This is the same perspective we need to hold onto for ourselves. I am pretty sure the caterpillar does not have a scientific understanding of what we call metamorphosis, but it does not cower in the face of its impending doom in the cocoon. It actually has a pretty good-sized dinner before its long sleep, and then it becomes a thing of rare and delicate beauty.
Perhaps this is how we need to look at any impending thought of doom: look at it, move through it without fear so we might experience the miracle that we are entitled to on the other side.
Look at it
This concept is not new to any Course student. There are a number of places in the Course where we are told not to focus on the frenzy of our fear thoughts, but to look clearly at what we think is the problem or challenge before us. Getting caught in the fear that often surrounds a situation does nothing for us — it neither solves the problem nor helps us to feel the peace that will allow us to be open to another way. In some places in the Course those fear thoughts are seen as clouds that can be easily moved through. They have no substance and only have the power to stop us that we have given them. As it says, “Go on; clouds cannot stop you.”
What frightens us is not that we look clearly at something but that we don’t look and live our lives based on what we think might happen. The Course tells us we see nothing as it is now. Our “seeing” is based on what we think “has happened” and then projected into the realm of what we think “might happen” (the future) and we miss the opportunity to see the truth that stands before us now.
Looking requires that we empty our cup
I went to see the cataclysmic movie 2012 recently. It’s about the end of the Mayan calendar and how that is supposed to predict the end of our world as we know it.
Well, if you have done any research on this subject, you might already know that there is a lot of skepticism of this idea and even of the actual date the Mayan calendar refers to, and that’s from those in the “know” about Mayan culture. The details are too long to address here; needless to say, I think we are safe.
In the movie (which was pretty intense, but also a little unsatisfying in the relationship department, which is what I feel makes or breaks a cataclysmic movie), a scene takes place in a Tibetan temple where an elder monk is counseling a young monk with (surprise!) very few words. To address the young monk’s concerns, the elder pours a cup of tea until the tea overflows and overflows and overflows. This startles the young monk, but the elder monk counsels that you cannot find any solution when you are so full of confusion. You must first empty your cup. Of course, the movie did not come up with this thought. It was actually borrowed from an old Zen story about the importance of emptying one’s mind.
But that’s what struck me about the movie — and I bet that scene didn’t cost nearly the $260 million that was the film’s budget. It was a priceless reminder to me and it has stayed in my mind ever since. It is important to empty our minds of the fear and frenzy that is whirling around. Think about how many things are facing you just today? What are the thoughts racing through your mind? Are you a cup that is overflowing because of your fears or worries from the past? Perhaps it is time to empty your mind to allow truth to find a home. Your answer is with you now; you merely need to clear away everything that is not the answer.
Moving through it
We spend so much time in the company of fear but no one likes it. We feel victimized by fear. So, maybe it’s time to stop inviting it over. I don’t know about you, but I have a busy life. I just don’t have time for thoughts that don’t benefit me. What has fear ever done for you? Worrying about what has happened or what might happen prevents you from seeing what is happening.
There is a fable about two monks who were walking by the side of a stream and they came across a woman. She was in great distress, for she needed to get across the stream but she could not swim. The elder monk picked her up and carried her across and then came back and resumed his journey with his fellow monk. The elder monk could tell that something was bothering his companion, but nothing was said. Finally after a few hours the other monk could not keep his mouth shut any longer. “You know our vows prohibit you from touching a woman. How could you do that?” he scolded. The elder monk replied, “I put that woman down on the other side of the stream. Why do you still carry her?”
There may very well be challenges you have to face, but carrying your fear and judgments from the past do you no good and certainly do not allow you to be open to experience the miracle that is awaiting you.
Holding on to fear and reliving it over and over again is like finding a piece of food between your teeth and re-chewing it. Have you ever done that? Be honest, we have all found that piece of tasteless, gray food between our teeth and instead of spitting it out, we pick it out, look at it, re-chew it and swallow it. Yuck! What a disgusting thing to do. But, we think nothing of re-chewing the fearful, debilitating thoughts that we allow our minds to feast on. Let us become aware of the thoughts that serve us and those that cost us our peace and insight and gladly make the sacrifice of fear today.
You are entitled to miracles
I say this all the time, but why not? When studying A Course in Miracles we are told that we are entitled to them, so maybe we should believe it! As a matter of fact, we are told in the beginning of the Text in the first 50 miracle principles that miracles are natural and that when they do not occur something has gone wrong. The fact is miracles are happening all the time; what has gone wrong is our unwillingness to notice them.
As Einstein said, “You either live as if everything is a miracle or nothing is a miracle.” That is your choice. The Course is not about you creating miracles; it is about you removing the blocks to the awareness of the miracles that are all around you. You are the heir to the kingdom of God, so it is time to stop living with such an impoverished attitude.
To be born again
“To be born again is to release the past and look without condemnation upon the present.” (T251)
When we dwell in fear, we lose. There is an old proverb: Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. Stop wrestling with your fearful thoughts; you will never win and the fear will become more real to you because of your resistance. This may be easier said than done, but that is no excuse not to start. That is why the above quote is a good one. It is simple, direct and it works. Look clearly: what has the past got you? What value have you gotten from dwelling on issues from your past? You might say you learned some good lessons from it. Okay, fair enough, so take the lessons and release the rest. The problem is most of us are not spending time in the past thinking about the wisdom we have gained; we are spending time in the past in regret, guilt, fear or anger. When we dwell there, we are stuck to relieve it in our future.
There is a miracle waiting for you today, right now. It cannot be lost or found by someone else for you. It will be found only by you. It requires only that you no longer carry your past into your future and that you be willing to empty your mind of fear now.
The end of something is not to be feared; just as the end of fear is not to be delayed. Fear doesn’t make life exciting; it makes it exhausting. In the Course it says that we think that without our ego, all would be chaos. It then goes on to say, though, that without the ego, all would be love.
It is time for the end of the world of fear and the birth of the world of love. This kind of end is not one of destruction, but translation. Allowing all mistaken, fearful thoughts to be translated into knowledge and restoring to our minds the truth that we think we have thrown away, that is Heaven. And that is really not an end but the beginning.
by Beverly Hutchinson McNeff
Thank you Beverly
From the January/February issue of The Holy Encounter. Click here to receive the current issue.
Here is the link to go to the website,
http://www.miraclecenter.org/services/subscribe.html
you are a fucking douche
Have a good one, Ted
Frank G
Hello to all….=))
In light of one of the best Olympic games ever, i feel bad for my fellow Dutch man Sven Kramer and Coach
Gerard Kemkers.
This is the biggest blunder ever in Dutch Olympic history for sure.
So for years to come from now we will be reminded about this big mistake.
I hope they will get some satisfaction in the pursuit race.
So looking back at some more big blunders either made by contestants or judges, i give you.
THE TEN BIGGEST BLUNDERS IN OLYMPIC HISTORY, BEFORE THE DUTCH BLUNDER.
By Monte Burke, Forbes.com
David Wallechinsky, noted historian, essayist and general raconteur, also happens to be perhaps the world’s leading Olympic historian. In his two compendiums, The Complete Book of the Winter Olympics and The Complete Book of the Olympics, Wallechinsky chronicles the Games since their inceptions, capturing the highlights and statistics, and the winners and the losers. But the books are also chock full of bloopers and blunders, which he believes have only added to our enjoyment of the games.
“I like odd stories,” Wallechinsky says. (He also keeps tabs on the governments of the world at allgov.com, which may be odder than the Olympics.) His passion for those strange occurrences makes him the perfect man to help us come up with a list of the 10 biggest blunders in Olympic history.
Missed opportunities
Wallechinsky’s favorite blunder happened in the 1960 Summer Games in Rome. A runner named Wym Essajas was the pride of Suriname, the first-ever athlete to participate in the Olympics from the country. Essajas was scheduled to compete in the 800-meter race, but he was given the wrong starting time. He decided to take a nap and ended up sleeping through his event, breaking the heart of his country. Suriname would have to wait another eight years to field another Olympian.
Next on his list is the sad saga of the man who ate too much.
“Thomas Hamilton-Brown of South Africa lost his opening-round match in Lightweight Boxing in 1936 [the Berlin Summer Games],” says Wallechinsky. “He softened the disappointment of his loss by going on an eating binge. Then it was discovered that there had been a scoring error and he had actually won the fight.
Unfortunately, he had already put on five pounds and was unable to get rid of it by the next day’s weigh-in.” The gluttonous boxer was disqualified.
Then there’s the blooper that proves tennis is indeed a contact sport. In the 1912 Summer Games in Stockholm, in the mixed-doubles tennis final, Sigrid Fick of Sweden accidentally smashed her partner Gunnar Setterwall in the face with her racquet during the first set. The Official Report of the 1912 Games, in the understated manner typical of that era, read: “This little accident put Setterwall off his game, for his play fell off tremendously.” You don’t say? The duo lost the gold 6-4, 6-0.
One of the most memorable blunders in Olympic history happened just four years ago in the Winter Olympics in Turin. American snowboarder Lindsey Jacobellis had a comfortable lead heading into the final jump of the gold-medal race in the snowboard cross event. She decided to add a little spice to her finish, attempting a totally unnecessary “method grab” in the air. Her showboating ultimately cost her the gold: When she landed, she caught an edge and fell as Tanja Frieden of Switzerland whizzed by her to snatch the gold.
“She definitely styled that a little too hard,” her coach said afterward. That was the understatement of the Olympics.
But the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul featured one of the greatest blunders in history – and it was on the part of the judges. In the gold medal boxing bout American Roy Jones Jr. absolutely pummeled Park Si-Hun, a South Korean, landing 86 punches to Park’s 32. Wallechinsky was in the front row for the match, calling it for NBC radio.
“Everyone in the arena assumed Jones won, even Park,” says Wallechinsky. But just before the announcement of the winner, Wallechinsky says he noticed the Korean volunteers celebrating. “I caught the eye of Jones’ coach and just shook my head,” he says. Jones was robbed of the fight and the gold. The judges were later suspended.
Sometimes blunders lead to good – albeit lucky – things. In the medal heat of the 1,000-meter short-track speedskating event in the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Australian Steven Bradbury was bringing up the rear on the final turn. Suddenly Chinese skater Li Jiajun fell and took out everyone in the race except for Bradbury, who coasted across the finish line to the gold medal.
“God smiles on you some days and this is my day,” said a humbled but happy Bradbury after the race.
For most other blunders, there’s no smiling whatsoever.
Link: http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/29/worst-olympic-blunders-lifestyle-sports-olympics-vancouver_slide_2.html?partner=yahoosports
Have fun, Frank G
…
Alright you made me say it…
It’s peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time
It’s peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time
Peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat
Peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat
Also: http://www.forumsextreme.com/images/Funny_Pictures_Animated_Dancing_Banana.gif
Frank, I know your only trying to keep some DI stuff going in the comments, but you do realise that these articles you keep posting will be protected by copyright laws.
I’m not to sure what the copyright laws in the Netherlands are, but as the sites you are pasting from are USA based as is DI, perhaps just to keep it safe just post a link and say what it’s about.
There isn’t much happening here at the minute for whatever reason, and I’m not going to get drawn into whatever the reasons behind it are except to say thanks for all the DI stuff so far and fingers crossed some more will be coming eventually.
But lets try and make sure that when and if Alan decides to make a return the site won’t have been closed down due to copyright infringement.
Cheers
John
I love this post. Thank you Frank for sharing this interesting post.
Techbalang – Gadget and Computer Security
dsjohn, it is against Mr. Bellows’s policy for one’s posts to include links to other products or services. (It’s considered spamming.) Please do us, and yourself, a favor by removing or deactivating your link.
….Sorry, I was thinking of another forum where one can edit one’s posts. Instead, send a note to Alan Bellows asking him to edit it for you.
Something I thought was DI: Chile quake might have shortened days on Earth
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/03/02/chile.quake/index.html?hpt=T1
Fuck this shitty site, removing it from bookmarks.
Still watching and waiting. The Frank G bickering is Damn Interesting though…
I like Meow. Mephedrone
I have been following this site for many years now. I stuck around through the occasional pause in new articles, and through the reposting of older ones. Sadly the time has come to say goodbye. Unfortunately this site has gone the way of many others that got a book published. The final nail was some of the comments in this thread, come on guys. I wish the creators and editors the best and good luck on your future endeavors.
The Milgram experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Ah I love freedom of speech, Go Michael Go,
Just to make sure about my posting here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
You either love or hate all the comments, Damn Interesting Idea Michael.
Frank G
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/08/preston-on-politics-michael-moore-lobbies-for-west-wing-job/?fbid=85ley2HlIPO#more-93577
Your comment has been placed in a temporary holding cell due to its resemblance to spam. If it’s legitimate, it’ll show up right here real soon.
Since it never will be placed i just put the link down here about Michael Moore.
At first i just wanted to copy/paste it.
Have Fun and yes I’m back
Frank G,,, smile
Q: How do you keep a rotten banana in suspense?
Tune in soon for the answer!
I’m Bored…
300th!!!
They say there’s truth in anagrams. Perhaps there’s fate as well.
Damn Interesting:
Daring Sentiment
Meandering Stint
Terminating…. .. . . Ends
I’ve been reading this site for years and I’m disappointed that there hasn’t been a post in half a year but what really disappoints me is the people who leave comments with curse words in them. I remember when everyone was civil to one another but now everything has changed. I guess just like myspace and bebo and other websites that were once considered great, this website has become a joke.
This week’s Banana News:
50 years ago, the Standard Fruit & Steamship Co. (now Dole) began shipping bananas in boxes. “The development of the banana box had a monumental impact,” notes a manager at Dole. Pioneers of boxed banana shipment will gather for a reunion this weekend (March 19-21).
http://thepacker.com/m/story.asp?sect=news&contentId=1002825
For anyone hungering for Damn Interesting stories, I have good news if you’ll settle for Quite Interesting. There’s this hilarious British show called QI with plenty of interesting factoids to quench your palate. It’s basically Stephen Fry asking a panel of comedians random questions, with hilarity frequently ensuing. It’s a different panel every episode with the exception of Alan Davies, who’s there every week. He’s pretty much a running joke. A ton of the episodes are available here: http://www.youtube.com/user/quite1nteresting?blend=1&ob=4#p/u
Not all the seasons are up there, but I would highly recommend season 5, which is my favorite so far.
Another submission to temporarily entertain and interest bored, impatient, and otherwise restless minds:
The latest (plausible and non-extraterrestrial-involving) hypothesis regarding the construction of the Pyramids in Egypt holds that they were made not of giant quarried blocks of limestone hauled by slaves at all, but rather of reconstituted limestone – a concrete, of sorts – poured into giant block-shaped molds.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article656117.ece
Domain Status Update:
The alternate domain “DARNinteresting.com” (which redirects to this site) was set to expire on March 17 2010, but it has now been renewed to 2011.
Perhaps it was set to auto-renew.
Presumably, the same may be true of DamnInteresting.com. It too may be automatically renewed when its current expiration date arrives in July.
In short: Rumors of DI domain expiration may be greatly exaggerated.
Of course this says nothing about about future activity on the site. But at least the domain may be in no real danger of expiring this year.
Thanks for the update BLORE,
I recently wrote about the site and communication again, and Jason Bellows replied see down here.
I am glad he is working on it and lots of other fans are probably thrilled when his articles will appear.
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Jason Bellows wrote on, 18 March 2010 at 11:57 am
I’ve written an article, and another was mostly done, but hard to finish them when I have no idea if/when will be used.
So thanks again Blore for your update,
Frank G
The main domain will indeed auto-renew.
That’s good news to hear at least. I have no idea what family politics or whatever is within the behind the scenes world of DI are, but it’s a true shame you can’t get the keys to the house here Jason. You seem to genuinely care long after most have given up and still occasionally post with tidbits of info and updates. We know you seem to have the drive to keep making this place something, and even have stuff on the back burner. Here’s to hoping Alan gets in a better spot or whatever the private issues may be and this place goes somewhere again. I still tend to check every few weeks to a month to see if something pops up, but even now the comment section is running dry looking at the spread of dates here and that’s a Damn unInteresting shame.
Jason:
I’m not all that interested in more posts here.
I want to see another book.
I check every few weeks to see if there is a new article. If they make one great, if not thank you for all the free content and I see no reason why you need to turn over the website to anyone else.
Are goldfinger and ladyfinger banana’s the same? I have never liked Cavendish but those ladyfingers are the bomb! Great site, I have only just discovered it so it would be a shame if it isn’t continued. DI articles!! Thanks.
Well, I managed to pass my state’s BAR exam and find a job in a terrible economy before DI posted a new article. Hurrah. Here’s hoping for new content in the future so I can read it during work.
I don’t know if anybody ever looks at Cracked, but I found this pretty interesting. It’s worth a look if you can get past the penis jokes.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18503_how-biotech-company-almost-killed-world-with-booze.html
really interesting article like myblog http://interestinginbox.blogspot.com/
Bannana Creme Pie…….mmmmmmmmmmm….its the best!
Rich,
http://computerfreezes.net
super))
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Last
Still lookin’ in every now and then just in case…
… loyalty thats what it is…
…loyalty
I still look in most days in vain hope. Come on ! We miss you Alan!
Hahahahahahahaha nice comback, dick. Is that easier to understand than ‘tool’?
Also, take some of your own advice, it’d be fantastic if you stopped wanking about in the DI comments.
Hello,
I’ve been looking back at this site pretty much every week since the last article and haven’t really heard anything much about updates. I obviously don’t want to take away anything from this website as it’s amazing, however, I was wondering if there was any interest in doing the same kinda thing but with user-generated articles.
I’m quite happy to foot the bill and create the website. All that is needed is to find people that are interested enough to create good, well-written articles.
To me, it seems such shame that such a great website should just die like this.
If anyone’s interested in project like this, please e-mail me: usergenDI@hotmail.co.uk .
Chris
I for one don’t believe that Damn Interesting is really going to die with “The Unfortunate Sex Life of the Banana” as its last article. Think about it. It’s only been about eight months since the article came out. There were about nine months between “In Soviet Russia, Lake Contaminates You!” and “Steely-Eyed Hydronauts of the Mariana.” People were panicked about the site dying then, too, but it didn’t. I have faith that we will get a new article eventually. Until that time, I intend to read older articles and their comments and, as others have suggested, make an attempt to write an article of my own, either to submit formally or merely to post here. I had been considering Fatal Familial Insomnia as a topic, but (good thing I checked!) Mr Alan Bellows has long since beaten me to it, and done a far better job than I could have hoped to have done myself. Time to go read that article and then think up another topic. Valete!
For the past 40 articles, the mean time between articles is 14.6 days (stdev = 28 days). 258 days have elapsed since the bananna article. Assuming that the time to the next article follows the exponential distribution, the probability of observing a hiatus of 258 days assuming that more articles are forthcoming is virtually zero. Given that we have observed a hiatus of 258 days, the logical conclusion is that no more articles are forthcoming. (Results assuming a log-normal distribution are qualitatively similar.)
The problem is: I’ve read all the articles, and, I’m sure, a lot of other people have, too. If you’re going to write a good article, it’d be a shame for it to just sit in the comments section. Also, you can’t add pictures or anything in the comments section :-(
I don’t understand pretty much all of what AntEconomist said, but, if it’s true — and I’m sure it is — no more articles are going to be written. Again :-(
I’m going to create the site. It’ll only cost a few quid for the name, and, if no one’s interested, fair enough, but, if they are, then we get more articles to read again! :-D
@chris85 … I think trying for a new site is a good idea, and I’ll try my hand at writing something if I can find the material. I hope the dregs of the DI visitors can create something together =)
Okay. Cool. I would have created it sooner but I can’t seem to think of a name for the site! Any ideas, Daeomon? Or anyone else?
Daemon*
It’s not that I don’t have the interest in contributing articles. It’s that I don’t have the ability of the Bellowses.
Nice one. Bumped into another crazy site http://www.allfaltugyan.com that has lotta damn interesting facts about everything.
Me neither, to be honest. The Bellowses et al are great writers. I’m just hoping that we can rekindle some of the spirit that was put into this site for more people to enjoy. Plus, I’ve read everything. :-P
First!! I always wanted to do that. I guess since I am 334th it’s cooler than to be the second or third one in. I remember when there were two or three “first’s” in every set of comments. I try to get a comment in every 100 or so.
Even reading the past articles is still cool.
Greetings to the faithful that still read all the comments. Hope you’re doing great. You too Alan, Jason, and all the other writers.
Maybe this is just my happy delusion; but I have a theory that if we can get to 639 comments on this article,
then everyone will get pie (mmmmmm) and a new article will be posted…
Is this officially the end of DamnInteresting? …. I hope not :( the amount of hours i have spent reading brilliant articles on here, what am i supposed to do now!? work!!! i think not!
Anyway I saw that someone was thinking of starting a similar site for DI articles…..if you do please post the URL here so i can come check it out. Oh and i have an article ready to go on it if you are interested…..was meant for DI but since they havent been seen for many moons now i doubt they will want it.
Long live the intellegent and amusing DI followers!
Thanks for nothing.
Thanks for everything.
I really miss Damn Interesting. I agree with Blore and I’m also appreciative of everything I got here. I’m just hoping that the site will spring back into action soon.
I don’t want more stuff here. I want another book.
HI ALL I AM NOT AT ALL WORRIED ABOUT THE SITE ANYMORE IT WILL GO ON FOR SURE SEE THE OLDER COMMENTS DOWN HERE . Frank G 22 March 2010 at 06:41 am • reply
blore said: “Domain Status Update:
The alternate domain “DARNinteresting.com” (which redirects to this site) was set to expire on March 17 2010, but it has now been renewed to 2011.
Perhaps it was set to auto-renew.
Presumably, the same may be true of DamnInteresting.com. It too may be automatically renewed when its current expiration date arrives in July.
In short: Rumors of DI domain expiration may be greatly exaggerated.
Of course this says nothing about about future activity on the site. But at least the domain may be in no real danger of expiring this year.”
Thanks for the update BLORE,
I recently wrote about the site and communication again, and Jason Bellows replied see down here.
I am glad he is working on it and lots of other fans are probably thrilled when his articles will appear.
————————————————————————————————
Jason Bellows wrote on, 18 March 2010 at 11:57 am
I’ve written an article, and another was mostly done, but hard to finish them when I have no idea if/when will be used.
So thanks again Blore for your update,
Frank G
#308 Jason Bellows 22 March 2010 at 08:23 am • reply
The main domain will indeed auto-renew.
Well, here it is. I’ve set up the website — it’s not finished yet — for people to post their articles. There are instructions on the page for how to post articles, so, if anyone’s interested, here’s the URL: http://www.entreating-minds.com
I hope people enjoy it! Keep in mind that it’s work in progress so not everything works as of yet.
Let’s hope that Alan et al come back soon. I’m still missing the articles…
Chris
Really like the new site :) I promise I’ll get an article at some point haha. I hope it really gets going, because it’s a massive shame about DI!
I continue to live in hope, this is DI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
Hellooo, yes not the correct grammar but i don’t care.
Guys now 10 months later and not really any interesting going on here I am thrilled and happily to announce to you all that Chris Hall one of DI longest fans here gave life to another interesting site.
Check it out get signed up and write some good and fun stuff guys, life does not end with DI it just got a little brother or sister if you like that more me DutchFrankie2010 or Frank G as i am called here am looking forward for new members and writers on the new site and yes i still hope that DI writers are going to pick up their writing pen and am looking forward for new articles here to.
So go to this link and check it out guys and galls. http://www.entreating-minds.com/
See you soon, Frank G
Hey Frank thanks for posting 4 spots below Chris’s post. That really helps.
Just checked out the new site. Pretty interesting – I like the petroleum killed the electric car article. http://www.fringd.com
Greetings!
I’ve been a fan of this site for quite some time now (although I’ve never commented.) I used to get a little disappointed when the banana would always pop up instead of a new article, but I also understand that this site was a massive personal undertaking. Bellows and company also have lives outside of this site, and they have provided a great extensive service at no cost to us fans, and with no annoying advertising!
Perhaps there is great misfortune that is affecting the ability of Bellows and co. to deliver articles. Or maybe the inspiration has run dry. Nevertheless, this site has provided so much entertainment and wonderful information. Think of the hours of research, writing, and editing that the Bellows have conducted on each topic, for the benefit of the people, and for no compensation of any kind. If this is the end of DI, I will shed a tear, but I also know that your legacy will continue, whether through the book, new fans, or other inspired sites (such as Entreating Minds.)
I thank you, Mr. Bellows and company, for the damn interesting articles and all of your hard work and dedication, and for the years of enrichment. I do wish all of you the best!
Sincerely,
Ash
Banana-shaped coronal loops play the music of the solar atmosphere:
http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/mediacentre/2010/1662.html
Please come back, DI! Here’s a little something to keep people interested:
The Taman Shud Case (also called the Somerton Man Case), one of the most interesting murder mysteries. A man’s body is found on an Australian beach in 1948. A mysterious message is found in a carefully hidden pocket. A rare copy of a book appears with hints to a secret code. Spies. Disappearing police evidence. This mystery has everything!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerton_Man
Made you look.
I think that it’s slightly ridiculous that this site has turned into a message board in which frank g can insult everyone and a few oversensitive take his bait and insult him back, but that’s just me.
Slightly?!
The good thing is, the site is still up, the bad thing is nothing’s really happening.
Unless you like the comments about my comments interesting.
E.M. is open for readers and writers > http://www.entreating-minds.com
I wonder how long it is going to be now before i get a response here on my comment.
Have a great day, and yes i am still hoping for new articles here.
Frank G
Stop posting
http://copybot.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/the-50-most-interesting-articles-on-wikipedia/
Wow impressive, the same day response.
Everyone can copy and paste, although i must say it’s a nice site.
And don’t tell me what to do.
Have a nice day,
Frank G
Whoah! Calm down. Just because this website isn’t being updated with new articles, it’s all turned into a massive fuckin’ argument. I’m wondering when people will start to mention the Nazis.
I think you’ve all been pretty harsh to Frank. He’s actually Dutch so is speaking in a different language hence his English isn’t perfect so give him a break.
There are some articles on the other website that you can read. They’ll never be as good as these ones, but at least it’s something.
We all want the DI articles to come back, but it’s not going to happen any time soon, if ever. Frank’s at least trying contribute to something so that people have other things to read while you’re all pissing and moaning in the comments.
Why not do something constructive and write an article for the site I’ve provided, or, at the very least, write one here?
chris85:
New articles – I agree.
But I expect nothing for free.
I want a sequel to the first book.
NAZIS
Beg pardon? You lost me.
I think he’s hoping to invoke “Godwin’s Law”, an observation made by a Usenet user that discussion threads, if continued long enough, manage to mention Hitler or the Nazis–at which point the thread is essentially dead.
Silverhill:
Thanks.
Just wanted to say that these comments are really funny!!
http://venaprosite.com
What if Nazis and pie are mentioned in the same post?
mmmmm, nazi pie alamode
Come on, folks, this is getting ridiculous. There are plenty of people who are willing to submit articles. Why don’t you post a few, just to keep interest in the site up. People are still buying the book, and I bet they are wondering why the site’s not being maintained. I bet if you posted a request for articles you would find more than enough diehard fans to fill the gap for quite some time. Please bring in some guest writers, just to keep the site alive!
In the meantime, for your reading pleasure:
The Dyatlov Pass Incident… Ten expert mountaineers are discovered in a pass, half naked, several hundred yards from their pass. What could cause these experienced veterans to panic and flee their tent without proper gear? Why did forensic tests find high levels of radioactive contamination on some of the victim’s clothes? Why was one woman victim missing her tongue, and the victims found with a strange orange skin tone? Is there a rational explanation for the incident?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
I disagree. I think that we’ve passed ridiculous and we’re deep in ludicrous territory now.
Please, tell me there is NOT a DI fecebook page! For the love of [deity of preference], please tell me there are also no DI twits! That would be worse than complete neglect. In fact, that would be worse than DI going dark with it’s last, abandoned shred of dignity intact. I’d rather see the ol site out of it’s misery before seeing it 2.0-domized.
Yeah, sites dead. Too bad, it was pretty awesome.
Factodiem is kinda in the same vein. It’s pretty cool.
So what’s going on Jason? Is your Dad OK? Is he sick? In jail? The witness protection program? Why won’t he let you post some new stuff? Did y’all forget the password to the Editing program? My book still smells of BBQ. I’m getting ready to check it for fingerprints and put out an APB on you all. Please plead with Alan to give us a hint, a clue, a finger. Thanks, from your die hard fan; Tink
“Jason Bellows said: “Raketemensch said: “Come on, folks, this is getting ridiculous.”
I disagree. I think that we’ve passed ridiculous and we’re deep in ludicrous territory now.”
we’ve gone to plaid.
Happy one year anniversary everybody.
One year since the last article was posted.
Sorry i guess i jumped the gun.
one day early.
Wow. Hardly seems so long. I guess climbing back into the bottle has really helped me to cope.
I logged in just to also commemorate the anniversary of the article. Had no idea it’s been this long!
omg! 1 year!
Can you believe that I still check to see if anything new has been posted, other than, of course, posts. I’ve bought the book, I keep coming back, but nothing is happening.
Its getting close to the point where DI is fast approaching the bottom of my favourites listing. I don’t want it to, but it might end up falling off in to the oblivion where everything else of no interest falls.
Sucked and spat out like a half-eaten smartie. not good :(
Help me out. Show me a sign. Something…
…anything?
I know it is very heartbreaking and sad that so many intelligent fan’s are getting disappointed, that Alan can’t write anymore see his comment here made in October 2009 >
“Alan Bellows 08 October 2009 at 10:50 pm • reply
To those complaining of the lack of new content: I apologize. I am experiencing some personal difficulties at the moment that are interfering with my ability to do anything that I normally take comfort in (including writing/editing/etc). I endeavor to peel away this bleak reality that has cocooned my psyche, but it is taking some time. Until then, updates will only come when I happen to have a bit of time, ambition, and joy all at the same time. Such synchronizations have become scarce.
Blah. ”
But he has also lot’s of other writers and i don’t see new articles from them , so i am questioning, how many time do you need, and where are the other writers?
In the meantime this is where i am writing a bit, not so strong as on DI but still i try to keep it up.
http://www.entreating-minds.com/
Happy reading, Frank G
I know it is very heartbreaking and sad that so many intelligent fan’s are getting disappointed, that Alan can’t write anymore see his comment here made in October 2009 >
“Alan Bellows 08 October 2009 at 10:50 pm • reply
To those complaining of the lack of new content: I apologize. I am experiencing some personal difficulties at the moment that are interfering with my ability to do anything that I normally take comfort in (including writing/editing/etc). I endeavor to peel away this bleak reality that has cocooned my psyche, but it is taking some time. Until then, updates will only come when I happen to have a bit of time, ambition, and joy all at the same time. Such synchronizations have become scarce.
Blah. ”
But he has also lot’s of other writers and i don’t see new articles from them , so i am questioning, how many time do you need, and where are the other writers?
In the meantime this is where i am writing a bit, not so strong as on DI but still i try to keep it up.
http://www.entreating-minds.com/
Happy reading, Frank G
I’m right there with you. I still check every day.
A sign? Here it is. – – – Join me in urging the Bellowses to publish another book.
If not that, then let’s turn this into a pay site.
So, I hate to join the ranks of the whiners and malcontents, but is it too much to ask for an explanation as to why we haven’t gotten any new content, or at least an update on if there will EVER be a new article. I’ve read every DI article on this site, and, quite frankly, I love it. But my patience is wearing thin. I’m getting tired of checking back every few weeks to see if there’s a new article or at least some reason for the lack there-of. We were promised monthly articles a year ago. There have been 3. When you break a promise, most often you have the decency to explain why rather than just post an enigmatic comment on personal difficulties and disappear.
So I ask for an explanation. An ETA on new articles. A giant “F-U” from the Bellows would be better than what we’re getting now.
I’m not asking for much. At least I don’t think so. And I’m sorry to even ask for this much. I simply hate going to this site every few weeks to find that it has degenerated to a message board.
Watchman:
Did you buy the book?
It’s kind of hard to live by offering free content.
For those of you who loved the Numbers Stations article, there’s a lot happening on the mysterious Russian ‘buzzer’ shortwave transmitter UVB-76. Check out http://uvb-76.blogspot.com/ to listen in on the current transmission. The buzzing, which has pretty much transmitted around the clock since 1982, has stopped. It has been replaced by static, occasional voices (both male and female) in Russian, morse transmissions, and even the sounds of furniture being moved around and a recording of Swan Lake! Interesting times, since only 4 or so breaks in the transmission or voice transmissions have been recorded in the past 28 years.
I’m sorry I was unclearI’m not complaining so much about the lack of new content as I am about the lack of information why. If they no longer feel like they should operate this site, that’s fine. That’s their business. Just let us know.
Thanks for the recap, FrankG. I missed that post.
Best wishes to Alan and his family.
Watchman:
Thanks.
Still, I encourage you to buy the book if you have not done so already.
It’s not that I am old school; it’s that I believe in paying for what I get.
For example, I never download free music from a friend or a file-sharing site. Instead, I buy the CD from a retailer or buy the music from a site such as Apple’s. Yesterday, I was at a festival and bought the CD directly from the group.
If I’m not willing or able to pay for something, I won’t take it.
Again, not complaining about no new free articles, and if I were able I would buy the book. I’m just curious as to what happenned to the site. Haha.
Here’s me, site contributor, and I can’t even really answer that question.
Pardon me if I come off as a bit harsh; I do not intend to do so.
It seems to me that, if someone can afford a monthly bill for an ISP, he should be able to afford a book ordered through Amazon.
> “… if someone can afford a monthly bill for an ISP, he should be able to afford a book …”
Where did Watchman tell you how much he pays his ISP? A popular dialup service costs less than five dollars a month (or even less if prepaid). For intermittent broadband usage there are of course free WiFi services available in many metro areas. Further, a book is a discretionary expense, whereas at least basic Internet access is arguably almost a necessity for many people.
blore:
But far too many people expect far too many others to provide free content.
Jason, thanks. It’s good to know that I’m not the only one lost. Thanks.
Anonymousx2: Take my word for it, I’m broke. Unemployed 18 year oldswho lve wih their parents don’t have much cash to spare after car insurance and gas.
Again, thank you Jason. I thought that people knew and just weren’t telling. I don’t like being kept in the dark. I hope that doesn’t sound as sarcastic as it looks… I hate txt. lol.
Watchman:
I understand completely.
Been there, done that, got the scars.
I wish you the best of luck.
Hmmm… I’ve got an article ready for posting. It was ready to go last year when Alan went AWOL. Is it possible to post it here in the Comments section?
I can’t see why not. If there’s a character limit on these comments, I haven’t found it. It’s at least worth a try.
Hmm… I’ll have to figure out how to add pictures here, though.
http://circa71.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/the-ruins-of-fordlandia/#comments
?
http://circa71.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/the-ruins-of-fordlandia/
scroll up on the prior. either or…
More Damn Intereesting material… here’s hoping that you can get the site back up and running.
The Lost Cosmonauts
http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/1302/lost_in_space.html
Was Yuri Gagarin the first man in space, or just the first one to survive? Two Italian amateur radio operators listen in to the top secret Soviet space program’s radio communications, and might have proof that the Soviets covered up more than a few deaths in Earth orbit. They even managed to listen in to John Glenn’s space flight and win a trip to visit NASA on an Italian game show, shocking their best scientists with tapes of radio transmissions no one was supposed to be able to find. All this while dodging near death at the hands of Soviet spies!
Listen in to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgc1I9sjfc to hear what might be the last transmission of a Soviet woman cosmonaut who died upon re-entry.
400th post!
also introducing the new and improved http://www.damnbanana.com
complete with time counter since last article!
Sorry I missed the one year anniversary of the last article.
Hilarious.
Still peeking in on the off chance something might have happened…
Raketemensch … I loved the article on the lost cosmonauts…
fazed_bananan … I like what you did there!
OK so where is the next interesting bite of intellegent brain candy?
:)
Well, having grown frustrated at the lack of anything over the past year, and having had an article virtually ready to post for a year before that, I went and stuck it in the comments to my last article, “The Pit of Life And Death”.
It’s titled “Douglas Mawson Goes for a Walk”.
Please add your comments there:
https://www.damninteresting.com/the-pit-of-life-and-death#comments
(it’s all the way down as Comment #104)
Good on you, man!
I just posted an addendum to the Mawson story there, derived from a Reader’s Digest article on the terible trek.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
You’re a cunt Bellows. I hope someone hits you with a car.
I don’t understand the use of sexual acts or anatomy as a pejorative. I like cunts! When I die, I hope to be reincarnated as a woman’s bicycle seat.
^^ <3 … Admittedly it would be nice for a new article, but to be honest I just can't bring myself to take this out of my favourites and I still check it most days. So I will still be around, when/if we ever do get a new article. Until that long distant day, let all of our dead brethren be reincarnated as womens bicycle seats!
Also, entreating minds guys… one day I will get that article done, sorry it's taking so damned long!
Hey Guys,
try this out for a little light reading. Just fiction, but hey … it’s free…
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/
Enjoy
darren
@zippyy
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
That book was briefly discussed in this 2005 DI article:
https://www.damninteresting.com/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript
Would it work to feminize the banana seeds? With cannabis plants, there’s a way to trick a ‘female’ plant into growing male sex organs/pollen. You can then use this female pollen to pollinate another female plant. That way you get sexual reproduction between two female plants, and can get seeds for strains which are clone-only. I’ve taken strains that are supposedly clone-only, and used this method to make seeds for that strain. When using this method, one gets all female seeds which are a mix of both their mothers. It seems to me that something similar could be done with bananas….
Yesterday I received an email from a fellow named Drew asking about the status of Damn Interesting. It was a rare positive message amidst a river of similar-but-negative inquiries. It was not the only positive email I have received regarding the rumored “Damn Demise,” but this one struck a chord and prompted me to explain myself a bit.
I could bullet a dozen long lists outlining the reasons for the long-lived Damn Interesting neglect (e.g., under-employment, over-employment, creative burn out, pudding, divorce, financial shenanigans, reddit.com, etc), but cataloging the causes does nothing to resolve them; it just squeezes them into bitter excuse-juice.
I will say that I have no intention of allowing Damn Interesting to die completely. A limb or two may become atrophied and gangrenous while caught in these distraction-traps, but I will gnaw those limbs off with enthusiasm when we are ready to resume our writing. We have a considerable cache of article topics in the hopper, so once we have the time/ambition to continue we’ll have the subject matter to match.
The causes are too nebulous to allow for a useful guess regarding the timing of our return. But if you’d like to be instantly informed when that moment emerges, the best I can suggest is to subscribe to our RSS feed, follow us on Twitter, and/or add yourself to our email notification list.
I have not made an offical front-page post about any of this because A) there is no satisfaction to be found in “I can’t say exactly why we have been away, nor quite when we’ll be back”; and B) when I previously posted “why we’ll be away” messages to the front page they prompted a slew of nasty emails filled with strange threats and unreasonable demands.
Thanks for not giving up on us entirely. I hope this beating-around-the-bush, hidden-in-the-comments update isn’t too off-putting. Mmm…pudding.
Thank you, Alan. I enjoy popping round every few days and reading the most recent comments. I’m looking forward to when Damn Interesting officially returns.
Looking forward to read your new articles Alan,
But i still have my hands full of all your older stuff so take your time.
I like pudding,
FrankG
Thanks for the update Alan. I look forward to more articles in the future and I’m glad you are beginning to sort out the things that have been bothering you. I hope this means that things are looking up for you :)
Glad to hear you are at least alive… hopefully both alive and well. Will be ordering more copies of your book for Christmas gifts again this year as they were winners last year. Thanks for the update. I’m a patient man, but come back soon, plllleeeeeeezzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent News! Waiting with baited breath.
> … baited breath
I met a girl; her breath was baited, mine was bated.
Been eatin’ worms.
Thanks Alan. Best of luck to you, and looking forward to the new articles in the future.
Pudding,
Fejerro
@mmmscott:
Why didn’t I think of that? I know a few people who would love the book!
@Alan:
Never forget that there’s a thousand of us waiting patiently for every one who yells and complains. Anger just serves as better motivation to write someone. Who knows, while I wait I might even try my hand at a writing sample, if only for kicks and giggles. In the mean time, butterscotch rules the day, everyday. Except the occasional February 29th. That belongs to Vanilla.
Drew
(Yes, that Drew.)
Welcome back Alan. Good to hear from you.
Good to hear from Alan, I look forward to seeing new content soon (not to say re-reading all the old stuff hasn’t been enjoyable!). My work days could soon be damn interesting again! :)
Alan,
This site has given me hours of pleasure and the book is one of my most treasured possessions. I miss it, but have enjoyed re-reading older articles. Glad to hear you are doing okay. Sometimes life gets in the way of making plans. Pudding is good, but pie is better. Even better than that, pudding pie….
Take care of yourself, Alan. It will all work out.
It won’t be back, ever. How hard would it be to let the other article writers keep writing articles if they wanted to? You’re still paying for the fucking site.
Now is the time when you give a reason as to why you just stopped updating? You’re seriously a moron. No wonder your wife left you.
You know you can catch more flies with honey than with vinager. If you keep leaving comments like this, then why would he want to keep this going. You are being harsh and it serves no purpose.
KarmaPolice is angry. ANGRY!!! But seriously that was out of line.
KarmaPolice You really are a dick.
What gives you the right to be so vicious to somebody who’s only crime was to stop writing……
Maybe Karma will catch up with you.
Alan, If you’re reading this then i’m sure you’re intelligent enough to realise that he represents a Moronic Minority and, yes, i do see it as a shame that this brilliant and thought-provoking site is left to whither away but i also understand that you are a human and not some word spouting AI
You probably have your reasons and i’m positive that we have no right to judge
It would be good to have you back but it wouldn’t be the same Alan if it was forced
KarmaPolice……You should have a glass stomach so you can see where your going….Your head is wedged firmly up your own arse.
Rant over…..
Blow me, fucking wankers.
Makes me have to wonder if KarmaPolice understands how Karma works…
Good to hear from Alan B., all our best to you. I’ll still be here.
Thanks for the update Alan! I check back about once a month to see if anything’s happened with the site, so I was pleasantly surprised when I saw your recent update. Please keep in mind that 99% of us love the site and would never send you derogatory or malicious emails/messages. People like KarmaPolice are just mad because they are so incapable of creating something worthwhile that the only way for them to leave any kind of mark in the world is by wasting away their miserable lives tearing down others. KarmaPolice is like David Copperfield’s nemesis, Uriah Heep, tough-talking when by himself, but is really just a slimy little sniveling bugger that would grovel at your feet and effuse your praise in a face to face situation. I’m sorry to hear about your many troubles and wish the best for you in life.
Exactly the type of response i expected.
Here is a few articles you might be interested in…..
Not Your Average Summer Camp
Written by Marisa Brook on 03 July 2006
The Unburdened Mind
Written by Christopher S. Putnam on 20 January 2008
and finally, one that I’m sure you’re familiar with…..
Unskilled and Unaware of It
Written by Alan Bellows on 25 March 2006
This is some great stuff…and just the kind of work I’d expect! EXCELLENT!
Yes, Alan Bellows!
This is my favorite site on the internet – the perfect forum for all things interesting. Your update gives me much hope that the fantastic-ness will go on. I am sorry that other difficulties of life have kept you away, but I look forward (patiently) to any articles you care to share in the future once the time finds you.
— PS Maybe renew your copyright sometime soon?
Hahaha, lol. First reading the description of the banana, people will first think of a human banana( do you get what I mean?). While reading afterward I am enjoying while confused if those history and other description are true =D hehehe. Its funny though =)
Regards,
Marl
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Please ignore the “7” above; it was only a test.
For a couple of months, I have been unable to post; not sure exactly why. I thought that it might have been due to some Firefox add-ons and plug-ins, but that didn’t seem to be the causative factor. Tried everything from CCleaner to MalWareBytes to SpyBot to AVG to Revo Uninstaller. Also, tried posting through Internet Explorer. I always made sure that everything was updated. Nothing worked.
I was preparing to reformat the computer’s hard drive two or three times in an effort to remove whatever bug had infected it. Then, this morning, I could post again. Another WordPress blog was also blocking my posts. Just tried it. Yep. It’s working. Frustrating and mystifying but damn interesting. Anyone have any ideas?
Yay!!! Allan’s alive!!! And apparently gnawing. Good.
PS. KarmaPolice, you really are a dick.
I understand your reaction to KP’s statements, but I also understand him. He’s young, and he’s afraid to confront people in real life; odds are high that he’s been dominated, submissive, and fearful all of his life. Venting his spleen online in a safe and anonymous setting gives him a chance to feel strong.
With luck, he’ll grow out of this phase, but I doubt it. I’ve seen too many adults who are still as he is now.
I am very upset to learn that I have been eating bananas from the wrong end.
I find it intriguing that people will become so explosively angry when someone who has provided something essentially for free decides to stop doing it.
There should be an article about that…
LordMarcus:
I think that several articles have already been written.
They are all filed under the heading of “The Average American Voter.”
Banana news update:
The “Banana Open Access Platform”, a banana growing areas map & wiki, has been updated and expanded since its August launch. Currently the project covers Africa, with a recent expansion to Costa Rica; further expansion may eventually follow.
Article about the project:
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201010270331.html
Map viewer: http://banana.mappr.info/blog/editor/index2_noedit.html
Project blog: http://banana.mappr.info/blog/
Current goals: http://banana.mappr.info/blog/?page_id=52
Background: http://banana.mappr.info/blog/?page_id=101
Map viewer response may be somewhat slow (layers may take several seconds to load initially). (Broadband is required.) The map viewer utilizes Google Maps. Select layers via check-boxes; select African countries from the menu below the map. The recently added coverage of Costa Rica is not yet listed in the menu; you can click-and-drag to pan the map and zoom to Costa Rica. Other banana growing regions have yet to be added.
(Disclaimer: I have no connection with the project or the banana industry.)
Banana news update:
The “Banana Open Access Platform”, a banana growing areas map & wiki, has been updated and expanded since its August launch. Currently the project covers Africa, with a recent expansion to Costa Rica; further expansion may eventually follow.
Article about the project:
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201010270331.html
(I have removed the “http” prefix from the following links, so that this post won’t be caught by the spam filter.)
Map viewer: banana.mappr.info/blog/editor/index2_noedit.html
Project blog: banana.mappr.info/blog/
Current goals: banana.mappr.info/blog/?page_id=52
Background: banana.mappr.info/blog/?page_id=101
Map viewer response may be somewhat slow (layers may take several seconds to load initially). (Broadband is required.) The map viewer utilizes Google Maps. Select layers via check-boxes; select African countries from the menu below the map. The recently added coverage of Costa Rica is not yet listed in the menu; you can click-and-drag to pan the map and zoom to Costa Rica. Other banana growing regions have yet to be added.
(Disclaimer: I have no connection with the project or the banana industry.)
(Sorry about the redundant post above.)
Meanwhile, in other banana news:
Yesterday, professional competitive eater Takeru Kobayashi ate 16 bananas in 60 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn4SLjzXQ1w
DI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quacker_(sound)
The effect of Mozart on bananas “has yet to be disputed.” (?) “‘Mozart Bananas’ meet an odd fate. String Quartet 17 and Piano Concerto 5 in D major, among other works, play continuously for one week in their ripening chamber ….”
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print/fs20101125a3.html
Couldn’t take it anymore….Odd number was driving me mad.
Can an editor fix the links that just redirect you to the home page? Alan Bellows? Clicking on “Read the rest of this article” doesn’t work several articles, including Son of Krakatoa, The Winchester Mystery House, etc.
https://www.damninteresting.com/page/28
Thanks.
It’s awesome to see that even after all this time without an article that the community is still thriving! Damn Interesting sure makes for a might fine slice of community pie! When you are ready to return Mr. Bellows, you’ll have one of the most loving communities waiting to get back at it!
PS. Sites like ycombinator and reddit still post links to your articles every now and then. ‘Course it only makes sense to link to one of the most damn interesting collections of knowledge on the web!
Very interesting article thanks a lot!
Thanks,
Elise
Banana news update:
As continued stormy weather cuts into banana supplies from Central America, prices and profits are expected to rise.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-08/foul-weather-is-fair-for-banana-suppliers.html
http://thepacker.com/Banana-supplies-down–prices-could-go-up/Article.aspx?oid=1290129&aid=684
Thanks for the update, Alan, good to see your type again.
“Yes! We have no bananas
We have no bananas today!!”
Any study linking banana consumption to intelligence?
Interesting; just the other day I bought organic bananas for 20 cents a pound less than normal. I’m surprised they’ve been as cheap as they have, considering the time of year.
The site starting back up again?
Let’s not be too hasty. Some (most?) of us have developed strong emotional ties to the current format.
That banana at the top of the page is a firmament. It’s the proud yellow monolith beneath which we claim refuge from our turbulent world.
And lets not forget all of the businesses that will founder if we abandon DI Banana Edition for DI Classic. damnbanana.com will lose its raison d’être. blore’s banana news will go from spiritual food to tired satire in a matter of weeks. The forum trolls will take their business to greener pastures.
Nosir, if watching The Shawshank Redemption 2x times has taught me anything, it’s that giving up our banana is a recipe for heartache.
I vote banana. You should too. http://www.thebananameanscomfort.org
> “… blore’s banana news will go from spiritual food to tired satire in a matter of weeks. …”
Banana news will always be t[r]opical.
Today’s update:
As weather slashes Colombia’s production, prices rise in Ecuador, amid rampant speculation and sales without contracts (a practice soon to be outlawed).
http://www.freshfruitportal.com/2010/12/17/colombia%E2%80%99s-rain-is-ecuador%E2%80%99s-gain-in-banana-shipments/
Gah! It’s starting already!
“Bad puns make my eyes bleed.”
– DI Readers
Ethylene, a plant hormone, promotes fruit ripening (including bananas of course), and senescence and abscission of fruit, flowers, and leaves. A recent study from Nova Scotia Agricultural College confirms ethylene’s role in abscission (i.e. shedding) of needles from cut fir, i.e. Christmas trees. Ethylene synthesis inhibition and receptor blocking techniques have been used experimentally to prolong needle retention.
Paper:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/b5811317h01165j0/
Interview:
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/10/131967516/Chemistry-Keeps-Christmas-Trees-Alive-For-Longer
462nd! Woohoo!!
“Tropical Race Four”, a fungus that threatens the Cavendish, is discussed in an article by Mike Peed in The New Yorker. The full article is available by subscription or purchase, but here is an abstract:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/10/110110fa_fact_peed
See also this related article by Jon Michaud:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/backissues/2011/01/bananas.html
(In the latter article, you can find a link to a 2008 NPR audio interview with Dan Koeppel, author of “Banana: The Fate of the Fruit That Changed the World”.)
Damn Interesting, Indeed! Any article with “sex” and “banana” in the title is bound to arouse interest in any reader! I never realized that the current banana supply was in any danger of being wiped out by disease, fungus. or parasites, but now I have a better appreciation for what is “the perfect fruit”.
Considering that IP addresses are supposed to run out soon, the Brothers Bellows might want to consider renting this address to someone, when and if the addresses do run out. If that happens, the asking price can skyrocket.
Anonymousx2 good point. when does the ip run out?
i really really miss this site..
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it is moneytipsgpt.blogspot.com
check it to find out how to earn a substancial amount of money online`
Best Regards
Thanks for the article, I love reading articles like these. Informative, interesting and a good little fact to tell someone to create greate conversation (and to look like a genius egghead!).
Ok I am serious.
$100 donation. RIGHT NOW. Even though I bought the book… I am serious.
Just give me another article. Heck – once a month.
Its a cool $100.
This usually works for me:
Hover over the broken link. You’ll see it ends in a number, eg. 123.
Now just type in your browser’s adress bar: https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=123
I had a dream last night that the site had a new article. Now my soul is crushed.
How hard is it to write an article?
> How hard is it to write an article?
You can find some “damn interesting” articles here:
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22damn interesting%22
Oops, bad link. Corrected:
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22damn%20interesting%22
“Our machine overlords: … our long, complicated relationship with mechanical beings”:
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2011/02/20/our_machine_overlords/?page=full
> “… To me, the whole subject of the automaton is so interesting … … It’s so damn interesting. …”
It’s an article about mechanical men written by a fellow named “Spanko”. :-\
I’m starting a blog with similar aims of producing interesting science articles with some science debunks and interesting stuff around the internet on the side.
The first feature article is on “Epigenetics – how major experiences we have may have an effect on our DNA” http://scishark.com/2011/03/epigenetics/
you can check out the site at Scishark.com
(mentioned @ boingboing)
another science blog: http://www.nowforthesciencebit.com/
written by: http://www.nowforthesciencebit.com/contributing-writers
I told my girl that this article said she had to have sex or her teeth would fall out. She remains dubious. Can you please publish some more stuff on using the banana?
Aaaaand now I stare at the bananas on my counter every time I pass…
I say leave Bellows alone! Wouldn’t we all do the same thing if we had the creative genius to do so in the beginning? Make a website, create interest, create involvement, write a book, sell out, and retire. End of story…
Nice to see someone’s still moderating the site: I could’ve sworn there were 484 comments on here the other day and the last two were pimping someone else’s site. I guess it was possible an automated removal but I live in hope…
Just thought I ‘d check in and see how the banana was doing. I hope Team Bellows is doing well, and add to the dozens of others that I too live in anticipation that the unorthodox minds that drew me to this site over two years ago will again start posting the most creative writing on damn interesting subjects.
I suppose the most interesting thing at this point is thinking that I am part of some grand (or not so grand) experiment is seeing how people react when fascinating stimuli they enjoy partaking of is no longer available and how long they will return to the same feeding trough even when it is empty…
God bless you all, I’ll check in again one of these days.
Yes alan we all miss you and your awesome, funny website. We understand that you wanted a break but just put one out every month! is that too much? this was (and still is) my favorite website. Please?
Reposting this for a 3rd time, without links (trying to get past the spam filter) …
About.com has anew article, “Banana History – Domestication and Dispersal of the Banana.”
To find it, try this search @ Google:
“Banana History – Domestication and Dispersal” site:about.com
oops, typo (“anew”: “a new”)
Another post of mine is stuck in the spam filter, because it contains a link. Reposting without the link:
Someone who “always wanted to build something unusual” has built a Banana Car. His plan is to tour the world on a mission to raise awareness about deep vein thrombosis. For a short video visit YouTube and search for this video ID:
aal-xOTTtJc
Brothers Bellows:
Just a note to let you know that at least one person out here is still checking your Website in hopes that we will hear about another book to be published.
Count on my purchase.
I too monitor the site, and I appreciate you perseverant ones. One day in the not too distant future I hope something interesting will await you here.
Sounds good. Thanks. I hope it’s a book.
what a pleasant surprise
Banana news update:
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/22/138610585/yes-we-do-have-bananas-for-now
(Again the spam filter won’t let me post a link …)
In a July 22 NPR Science Friday interview, “banana expert Dan Koeppel discusses the problem of banana monoculture, and why he says we should demand banana variety.” To find the interview go to npr.org and type “bananas” in the search box. … (In the search results you’ll also find an earlier story about the Banana Car that I mentioned above.)
“blore”
Iwanttosayitaloud
NO I meant
I want to say it OUT LOUD . . . .
A completely non-banana related DI article: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_collarbomb/ The article starts: A man walked in to a bank with a bomb locked around his neck… and only gets stranger after that!
The spam filter has blocked another post.
Some posts never make it past the filter … so in case it doesn’t show up:
I attempted to post a link to a July 22 article by Dan Koeppel:
“The Beginning of the End for Bananas?” at the-scientist.com,
and a link to his blog at bananabook.org.
Where has our Damn Interesting gone?
Nothing new for about 2 years, what a bummer.
daylight come an me wanna go hooome!
500th! Woot!
***facepalm***
Banana politics news update (Sri Lanka):
news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/08/sri-lankas-new-flashpoint.html
Happy 2 years all.
I have been a reader of Damn Interesting since I discovered it 5 years ago. I created an account today to commemorate the 2nd anniversary of the Banana post. I have read the archive numerous times and have purchased the book as soon as it was available to me.
Your writing and sense of humor have been a joy to me and my family members I have shared it with. I still check the site daily in hopes that the Phoenix has risen from the ashes and I will continue to do so.
Alan, I hope that you are able to rekindle the flame that drove you to create such a great site. If you are not able, thanks for all that you have been able to give.
Enter your comment here.
Farewell, banana. After two years, you no longer lead the way.
Obviously, you’re not married. ;)
Seriously though, it happens all the time. Waaay back some friends and I used to organise parties, 400 – 500 people. The object was not to make money but to have the kind of party that we would like to be at ourselves. It was semi-private, i.e. you had to be invited by one of us or by someone already invited and you paid a small cover charge which was calculated to let the party pay for itself. Passes sold in advance but not at the door and you got a great space, an indoor and an outdoor dancefloor, places to lounge, finger food (that you paid for as it was provided by an outside contractor) but free open bar. The only thing was that we had a system of time-outs for the bar where every two hours for half an hour they would only serve water. We wanted people to be having fun, staying hydrated and not get too drunk. The abuse though that the bar staff got during those time-outs!!
Not a lot of point responding to Alan’s post (#414) given that T-Zero on the clock is nearly here but just wanted to add my voice to everyone else thanking him and Jason for all they’ve done and for wishing them the best through the trials and tribulations of life. Maybe getting back in the saddle or diverting oneself with a cherished hobby (such as DI) sooner might have provided some contre-poids and helped to find some equilibrium sooner but I know first hand how much easier that is to say than to do. There have also been many offers of help and support from the fanbase offering to share some of the duties of the site. Take us up on it next time guys, you are not alone!
I believe you may be experiencing some confusion. Allow me to attempt to shed some light on this.
All bananas (including the organic bananas) are technically genetically modified in the fact they would not exist on their own without human intervention. The organic producers may try to use the more difficult method of seed extraction, they have a more lenient view on what is deemed “genetically modified”, or they may use a more sturdy strain in its place ie. like how the Cavendish replaced the Big Mike.
I’m not sure who told you that GM foods have no DNA. To genetically modify something implies that it must have genes to modify.
As for a “lack of aura” all I can say is that the “science” of auras has never been seriously validated, so to claim that lack of said aura is an indication of poor nutritional value doesn’t hold any merit.
GM product can be dangerous if they aren’t regulated (like just about anything else) but for the most part they are safe. Long story short GM does not equal BAD.
I wonder what sites Frank G is trolling these days.
Here from a link on mental_floss’s article on (of course) bananas. I just went through a few pages of comments, and I am amazed at the outpouring of heartfelt messages to Mr. Alan Bellows. Also somewhat dismayed that I missed the, well, heyday of this place. Hoping there’s a renaissance and that all is well with the Bellows…Brothers? Bellows and Sons? Newbie moment here…
(Off-topic: at least the site is still up and running, despite the lack of updates, and people occasionally comment. Anyone here used to play Island Paradise? Farming game on FB, and when Meteor Games went under…well let’s just say I miss those forums :/ No comparison at ALL, of course, but that’s my only experience with online things that have fallen away.)
Have a good day one and all! :)
That awkward moment you realize that the FB page is well and alive…well DI just got a new fan then! :)
Someone in here started commenting about GM and “plant aura’s” and what not…
Just wanted to clarify:
Aura’s are fictional. Like magic, unicorns and lepricons.
GMO’s (Genetically Modified Organisms) are not necessesarily bad. Transplanting gene’s in whatever way to some organism (plant, animal, yeast, bacteria) is nothing more but a quicker way to introduce mutations, that might otherwise have occured naturally after a vast time period, or that could have been happening sooner due to selective breeding (which happens all the time for all kinds of plants and animals, e.g: humans created the dog race. Ten thousand years ago we started training wolves – and now they are dogs. All dogs come from the same animal – all dogs are different phenotypes of the wolf. All corn types are descendents of grass. The same thing with broccoli, wiki quote: “Common vegetables such as cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower, kohlrabi and Brussels sprouts are all descendants of the wild cabbage plant”).
My point is: Mutation = a good thing.
GMO’s = quick way of selective breeding.
The one thing with GMO’s that you have to be carefull with, is that you dont introduce some mutation that might be harmful for human consumption or harmful for the wild flora and fauna, if the gmo race was to be introduced to the wild. Remember, though, that this can also happen naturally. Anyway – there are strict protocols to make sure GMO’s do not escape into the wild. They are studied in closed laboratories, that force you to wear protective clothing etc. They are meticulously tested before even considering being used. If they are safe – then they are used. As an example, all penicillin is actually produced by a genetically modified yeast strain! Yes! By modifying some yeast strain, they were able to have the fungi produce penicillin.
The anti-gmo movement has raised attention towards genetic engineering, which is a good thing, but it has also significantly damaged and stagnated research and development. By means of genetic engineering the human race could solve a lot of problems. We could battle hereditary diseases, make food crops resistent to certain fungi and vira, maybe enable them to grow on saline water, instead of fresh water. However all these things require research, and research requires funding. And funding is very hard to get on these subjects due to misinformed people spreading the false accusations of said anti-gmo movement.
My point is. Know what you are actually voting against. Research it.
Ten years have passed? Astounding. I am now an old man.
I last posted nearly 10 years ago? How can I be that much older so quickly?
Eight years ago, I said that I hoped that we would be able to buy another DI book. I still hold that hope.
Ten years have passed since I last commented? Astonishing.
It’s been nearly eleven years? Astounding.
10.5 years older. I don’t have long left.
I am about to go the way of the banana.
Checking back in.
Still here, somehow.
And back again.
Hello banana in the year 2021!
Welcome to 2022 Mr Banana article sir
And, now, it’s 2023, and the banana is still here.