You can tell that dave didn’t write certain material himself by the way he reads it — like he’s reading something someone else wrote and has a stilted delivery because it’s not written in the way his brain would’ve come up with it.

Searching google and copying and pasting passages is probably what dave thinks of as research — or at least he did until this article. His rude response, though, tells me he hasn’t learned anything and will just keep doing things the way he’s been doing them while belligerently dismissing what people think about it, because that’s his MO and he seems to be fine with it.

I’ve updated my review on iTunes to 2/5 along with a reference to this post.

On July 9, 2015, Alan Bellows of the history website and podcast Damn Interesting posted an open letter, accusing The Dollop of plagiarism.[15] The Dollop subsequently deleted the offending episodes from their website and established a separate website to cite their sources in the future.[16] After this incident Anthony has ensured that all episodes are appropriately referenced, and all the research and writing for new episodes is done by himself and others specifically for The Dollop

Keep it rocking, Alan. Love your work.

I am not trying to say that the plagiarism should not have been called out or be hostile towards DI, I just feel things could have gone a lot more smoothly if less hostile actions were taken first.

Also to everyone who is saying The Dollop is ruined because you found out they plagiarized, its really not; you can still enjoy listening to the podcast, unless you are just that bothered (which, in my opinion, would be immature). That is like saying you cannot enjoy a TV show because one of the actors did something bad. That was the ACTOR not the CHARACTER, just like the podcast is still the podcast, not necessarily Dave and Gareth.

I’m taking issue with the whole idea that TD shouldn’t be publicly “shamed.”

First, it’s not shaming, it’s bringing to light an offense, done publicly, against another person. Public harm requires public rebuke.

In no way should Alan have been required, either legally or by social norms, to privately address a public harm.

Second, do you really believe TD (Dave, specifically) doesn’t know about plagiarism and what constitutes it? I knew about that back in sixth grade when we started writing research papers and the internet was still barely out of the gate.

DirkSteele: I hope Anthony isn’t foolish enough to include our work in his book, or the work of other authors without permission. Plagiarizing on a free podcast is one thing, but doing so in a commercial product is another. If he’s included any of our stuff, he’ll probably need to replace that imaginary lawyer of his with a real one. Note to anyone who happens to buy the book: If you spot some suspected plagiarism therein, please give the author(s) a heads up! I may go leaf through a copy at the bookstore when it comes out, assuming I can stomach it.

Nikki: I don’t think podcasters are lowly, I happen to be one myself. I do, however, think plagiarists are lowly. I agree with your assessment that limited quoting of another’s work is fine provided the reader cites the source. Anthony strayed from okay because he:

1) Did not cite the sources;
2) Did not even mention he is reading other authors’ work;
3) Used most or all of the texts of the others’ work; and
4) Mixed lengthy sections from various works into one “new” seamless one.

Number 3 is usually not protected by Fair Use, even with citation. At some point the quoter is no longer quoting, but reproducing. That link you provided suggest 300 words or up to 10% of the word count. In my annotated example above, Anthony used over 2,600 unattributed words, which is the bulk of the original article (and that’s just one episode of multiple offending episodes). So, it’s a blurry line, but Anthony stepped well past the blur.

Number 4 is particularly damning, it makes it seem clear that he didn’t write any of the script, but he wanted it to seem like he did. That’s the kind of classic, flagrant plagiarism that has seriously harmed many writers’ careers (e.g., Jonah Lehrer) while somehow barely tarnishing others’ (Fareed Zakaria, Dave Anthony).

https://janefriedman.com/permissions/

As far as I’m concerned, if someone is quoting your article and citing it properly, you should be happy for the free publicity, even if lowly podcasters are using it (which is very much the connotation I get from your words in the article, whether or not you intended it) as opposed to scholars or educators. This comment is coming to you from someone who is both a grad student and a podcaster.