Comments on: The Inexplicable Voynich Manuscript https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: jarvisloop https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-74651 Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:40:32 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-74651 This casts doubt on aliens ever being able to decode television broadcasts or the devices on the Pioneer crafts.

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By: Nikolaj https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-71602 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:45:22 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-71602 Good day!
My name is Nikolai.
To a question about the key to the Voynich manuscript.
Today, I have to add on this matter following.
The manuscript was written no letters, and signs for the letters of the alphabet of one of the ancient languages. Moreover, in the text there are 2 more levels of encryption to virtually eliminate the possibility of computer-assisted translation, even after replacing the signs letters.
I pick up the key by which the first section I was able to read the following words: hemp, hemp clothing; food, food (sheet of 20 numbering on the Internet); cleaned (intestines), knowledge may wish to drink a sugary drink (nectar), maturation (maturity), to consider, to think (sheet 107); drink; six; flourishing; growing; rich; peas; sweet drink nectar and others. It is only a short word, mark 2-3. To translate words consisting of more than 2.3 characters is necessary to know this ancient language.
If you are interested, I am ready to send more detailed information, including scans of pages indicating the translated words.
Sincerely, Nicholas.

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By: Claudette Cohen https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-39698 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 01:11:16 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-39698 Over 70 words and names gleaned using a new transcription alphabet indicate constructions of an old Finno-Ugric origin with a substantial amount of Old Norse. In addition, there is a distinct Slavic influence. Some of the pages contain text suggestive of Karelian runic charm songs or Sami joiks in that they are highly alliterative and trochaic.

More here:
http://voynichbirths.blogspot.com/2014/12/follow-on-facebook-functiond-s-id-var.html

The pages depict female heliocentric star charts resembling Nordic brooches. They also depict kolovrats, octagrams, sauna/banya, torcs, a seidr staff, the sun cross symbol, intercalary year, red conical roofs, onion domes, plants from the northern hemisphere, a landscape resembling the Ruskeala marble caves, zaftig fair blond women, a Permic-like lizard of the underworld, the pike of Tuonela, and runic glyphs (comparable to those found in Icelandic magic books).

Some visual designs are reminiscent of a Sami shamanic drum, Karelian embroidery, and Vologda lace. The herbal powder receptacles are modified sewing necessaires in the tradition of north European treenware.

All of this points to core elements of north European culture that can be found in Scandinavian, Finno-Ugric, north Germanic, and to some extent Celtic traditions. These belief systems go back thousands of years.

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By: sperminator https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-38514 Thu, 06 Feb 2014 04:31:25 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-38514 Several plant drawings inside the book have been identified as specimens from North America, so it is presumed that the book must not predate Columbus’s voyage to the New World in 1492

Thats only any good if you assume the text was european in origin.
Latest theory is it may actually be in an extinct dialect of the Mexican language Nahuatl.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24987-mexican-plants-could-break-code-on-gibberish-manuscript.html

http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=54124
(Dont ask me why that second link is on a catholic website !)

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By: Kyren https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-26127 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:09:50 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-26127 Damn interesting, broski. I appear to be a bit late commenting, but I couldn’t help myself.

I would have thought the book’s ‘secrets’ to be obvious. Human nature does not change, my friends. If someone looked back at /us/ in five-hundred or so years, what would a book; illegible to the naked eye, filled with odd annotations and colorful pictures be?

Ohhai, Dungeons and Dragons player manual~ I see that your druid just lost five mana points due to fatigue.

[[I do hope you wonderful folks got that reference. If not, the joke originated on xkcd.]]

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By: sh0cktopus https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-23917 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:18:24 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-23917 I was reading more about this and I came across another book of a very similar nature called “Codex Seraphinianus.” The dead tree edition will set you back $500 or more, but some internet savvy should yield a pdf version for a more reasonable price… ;) It is without a doubt the most bizarre yet cool book I have ever seen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus

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By: Radiatidon https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-23908 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:06:16 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-23908 Deciphering an unknown language is a daunting task. First one needs to understand the foundation of the language and its basic interpretations.

As stated the Egyptian writings were frustrating since there was no foundation to work from as it was a dead and forgotten language. The only reason Champollion solved the mystery was when he got a hold of the Rosette Stone. It was discovered by chance when a French officer found it during Napoleon’s campaign in Egypt during 1799. The stone had a decree by Ptolemy V engraved in it in 196 BC. The decree was written in three languages, Grecian, Demotic, and Egyptian. This created a stepping-stone into the nuances of the Egyptian written language, or an important puzzle piece to unlock the whole.

Another language is Cretois, a dead language in all senses. The text they left behind, labeled Linear B, had confounded scholars until Ventris came up with what many considered a ridiculous hypothesis in the 1960s. First the writings were not Cretois but those of a Greek invader and that the signs did not stand for a thing like Egyptian but rather some sound as in phonetic writing. This daring leap was the key essential to cracking that nut.

Also without a native speaker you have to rely on samples matched with the word.

In Sioux the word peta means stone, yet the word pte is a buffalo cow. Now tatanka is a buffalo bull while tonkala is a mouse. Then there is gender specific words such as tuki which is only used by a women meaning “is that so”, or for the word “yes” men say hau while women say han.

Also the Sioux Nation has around fourteen different sub-groups, each with its own unique dialect and different spellings of common words.

So it is important to have some keystone to help decipher/decrypt the language.

The Don.

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By: ValiantDefender https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-23907 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:48:41 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-23907 Scientific discovery. If I cannot prove where it came from, its a hoax or not true. If no one has found the viking ship that landed in the carribean then there must have never been one! These things could be classified as reasonable doubt….However…..there is also very reasonable probability that someone happened up the americas, documented some of their travels and came from a civilization to which we have lost all record of their language. Egpytian was only broken by the discovery of the rosetta stone. Why must we pride ourselves in being able to understand everything and not remember that these past discoveries weren’t just some kind of clairvoyance.

I woul say that the language in the book is saying something. Who would write so much and have it say nothing? keep in mind this is all written by hand…a meticulous process.

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By: DanThinksDances&femaleGspot https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-22012 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:03:07 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-22012 Enter your reply text here. OK
Basques, Vikings, and Indians. Then civilization.

You guys said it. Accurite?

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By: muppetS https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/the-inexplicable-voynich-manuscript/#comment-15378 Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:42:51 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=22#comment-15378 Yeah they do have normal numbers…you can see them on the high res scans of the images. I have no clue if they were added before or after the initial writing though.

The only odd reason I don’t think this a complete hoax is why is there a normal statistical distribution of the lettering that follow Zipf’s law? If I was making up BS to sell a book several hundred years ago, I don’t think I’d predict that people may eventually run statistical analysis on it. The best guess I think I’ve heard is that it’s some unknown language not descended from Latin, but who knows.

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