Comments on: The Ancient Order of Bali https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Tue, 15 Aug 2023 15:09:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Blackavar https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74629 Tue, 15 Aug 2023 15:09:21 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74629 Bravo! This is a great article and a great example of the best writing on this site. Thank you to Matt Castle and to DI for always showcasing high levels of knowledge, curiosity and damn good writing.

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By: Cptvn https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74583 Sun, 21 May 2023 17:04:36 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74583 Great article and writing.

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By: Emmalisu https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74582 Wed, 17 May 2023 16:11:45 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74582 Very interesting article. I hope to circulate it among my farmer friends. Thank You!!!

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By: Monkey and Koki https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74578 Mon, 01 May 2023 22:56:39 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74578 This makes me think about microbiome interactions- certainly this article could pertain to all kinds of different scales, from the cellular to the national scale. Has anyone thought about applying the same sort of analysis to green revolution policies regionally themselves?

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By: Morgan Jones https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74576 Fri, 21 Apr 2023 01:18:51 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74576 Great Article as always!

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By: Romar https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74575 Thu, 20 Apr 2023 16:56:41 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74575 Thanks for a very interesting article. And any pest which attacks grains can certainly be called a “cereal offender”

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By: Matt Castle https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74572 Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:13:24 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74572 Pardel, many thanks for that link – fascinating!

I don’t know if Stephen Lansing is aware of that particular institution but I’d certainly never heard of it. Though there are numerous examples of resource management institutions/systems, many water-related, dating back centuries, and in many parts of the world. And on the face of it, many seem to be good candidates for demonstrating emergent properties. The Dutch water boards mentioned in this (and a previous) DI article are another example. Such systems have been studied by numerous other researchers over the years – including of course the late Elinor Ostrom, the economist/political scientist who won a Nobel prize in 2009 for her research into common-pool resource management systems – aka ‘the Commons’.

As you suggest, it seems demonstrating the emergence – the complexity – is the hard bit: identifying the key parameters and functional relationships, mathematising them, and showing the resulting model outputs to be consistent with real world observations.

On the subject of stuff I omitted in the interests of avoiding article-bloat, the UN Food and Agriculture Organization website has a great list of ‘heritage agricultural systems’, many of which seem similarly good candidates. And in Asia, they often seem to involve irrigated, terraced rice fields. See the Dong Rice Fish Duck system for example:
https://www.fao.org/giahs/giahsaroundtheworld/designated-sites/asia-and-the-pacific/dongs-rice-fish-duck-system/en/

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By: Pardel Lux https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74571 Sun, 02 Apr 2023 16:55:19 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74571 Interesting indeed. I wonder whether Mr. Lansing has heard of the Water Tribunal of the plain of Valencia, in Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Tribunal_of_the_plain_of_Valencia
I think it is not as complex as the Bali example, but it may well fit into his investigations of water sharing and managing. And who knows, perhaps it shows even emergent properties too!

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By: Heavy D https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74570 Sat, 01 Apr 2023 07:07:42 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74570 Another great article by the DI team; thank you for your dedication to excellence!

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By: Mike https://www.damninteresting.com/the-ancient-order-of-bali/#comment-74569 Wed, 29 Mar 2023 12:46:04 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?post_type=upcoming&p=80382#comment-74569 Thanks, very interesting

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