Now as to why the Confederacy lost to the Federal Union during the civil war, is basicly the same issue as when honest bible believing men are in conflict with the devil. Never bargain with the devil.

[1] “Its [the Philadelphia Convention’s] official function was to propose revisions to the Articles. But the delegates, meeting in secret, quickly decided to draft a totally new document. Of the 55 delegates, only 8 had signed the Declaration of Independence. Most of the leading radicals, including Sam Adams, Henry, Paine, Lee, and Jefferson, were absent. In contrast, 21 delegates belonged to the militarist Society of the Cincinnati. Overall, the convention was dominated by the array of nationalist interests that the prior war had brought together: land speculators, ex-army officers, public creditors, and privileged merchants.” Did the Constitution Betray the Revolution?, Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, William Marina http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1400

I find it funny that this can truly be related to the illegal immigration issue. They say that illegals are doing the jobs that Americans wouldn’t do, and for less money. They say that without illegal immigrants doing this labor, the economy would be crippled, and prices would raise to levels that Americans couldn’t handle… It would cripple the economy.

Interesting how we made it through that time, even though we abolished slavery.”[/quote]

I dont think you can say that “we made it through it ” like it had no immediate or long term consequences. The South was left in ruin with most major cities like atlanta burned to the ground. The economy was crippled and only slowely came back. It took decades for it to come back and who knows what it would have been like with out the war or abolishment of slavery.

As far as imigration is concerned, we have already seen that the argument that they are “doing the job americans wont” is flawed. The most recent raid of the meat packing plant where they were makeing drugs as well was to take years to rehire legals. But since the argument is false it has only taken a couple months.

Ah, but you are the final arbiter of all things Bush. The jury of your mind has already rendered its verdict and sentence. Fortunately, the world operates outside you brain ball, so we’ll just let history unfold. As for your “beloved” comment, I have many problems with many things the current Administration has done, so, yet again, your weak attempt at defining me falls well short of reality.

[quote]Last news, the Organization of American States condemned the invasion of Colombia into Ecuadorian territory, the only two countries stepping aside: Colombia and the U.S. All the other nations unanimously approved the motion. You don’t see much of these in the U. S. news broadcast systems.[/quote]

Yes, this tempest in a teapot is quietly, and quickly, running its course. I saw one analyst comment that all sides came out OK. Ecuador defended its sovereignty, that nut-job in Venezuela got to look like the defender of the weak in the region, and Columbia killed a dangerous terrorist for the small price of an apology. Heck, if that loon, Chavez, hadn’t stuck his nose in, this thing may have resolved itself even more quickly. Speaking of Chavez, now there’s a guy destined for a world trial.

[quote]Ah! Today, other 40 or so were blown apart in Iraq. Of course this nothing has to do with the U. S. invasion, is just a thing of the Arabs.[/quote]

One wonders if you do a cute little dance every time there is a catastrophic loss of life that, in your mind, emboldens your anti-American hatred?

[quote]Where do I am from Sid? You guess, I can only give you hints. I am from a free nation, full of solidarity and rebellious spirit, especially against all kinds of imperialism. We are currently trying to get rid of some annoyances of such kind.[/quote]

Far be it from me to be the one who “outs” you. I have narrowed down your country to a couple possibilities, but I wouldn’t want to divulge anything you wish to hold secret. Someone in an earlier thread asked you, directly, where you call home, and you chose to ignore the question. Thus, if you want people to know your country, feel free to tell. But my guess is you prefer the safety of secrecy, as throwing stones is much easier when your glass house is in an undisclosed location.

[quote]See you around.”[/quote]

Gee, I hope not. As I said before, I think you have some real rage issues, and I would hate to experience tham firsthand. Let’s leave it at, I’m sure we’ll be corresponding in the future.

BTW, I’m still waiting for answers to previous queries.

Last news, the Organization of American States condemned the invasion of Colombia into Ecuadorian territory, the only two countries stepping aside: Colombia and the U.S. All the other nations unanimously approved the motion. You don’t see much of these in the U. S. news broadcast systems. Ah! Today, other 40 or so were blown apart in Iraq. Of course this nothing has to do with the U. S. invasion, is just a thing of the Arabs.

Where do I am from Sid? You guess, I can only give you hints. I am from a free nation, full of solidarity and rebellious spirit, especially against all kinds of imperialism. We are currently trying to get rid of some annoyances of such kind.

See you around.