Comments on: The Fall of Galloping Gertie https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:07:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Stretch_1977 https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-74770 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:24:27 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-74770 The film of the collapse has been shown to generations of Freshman Physics students in colleges all over the world as an example of resonance, but later investigations have now attributed the cause of the collapse not to resonance, but to aeroelastic flutter, a much more complex phenomenon. In aeroelastic flutter, airflow over a structure can induce oscillations in a portion of the structure that can be large enough to cause structural failure. It is most commonly seen in the skin of an airplane wing, and the flutter can literally peel the skin off of the wings!

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By: jarvisloop https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-74409 Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:23:29 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-74409 If anyone has not yet seen the video of this, it is well worth your time.

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By: Roger https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-72407 Fri, 23 Mar 2018 02:27:10 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-72407 A perfect storm of engineering and political issues. Eldridge, the local engineer, was replaced by Moisseiff, a New York engineer. Why? Because he’d written scholarly articles on his deflection theory and elastic theory. [Both are wrong.] He claimed that wind would only affect a suspension bridge side to side. Therefore he changed the original 25′ Warren truss design to 8′ I beam.

At least the failure caused engineers to rethink bridge design and consider aeroelastic effects and vortex shedding.

His estimate of $6mil appealed to the feds. The original design had an $11mil estimate.

If the Eldridge design had been chosen the bridge would still be standing.

Moisseiff worked on the Bronx Whitestone Bridge, designing 11′ solid I beams, which later had to be reinforced. He was chief engineer on the Manhattan Bridge, where he put the railway on the outside lanes, causing tbe bridge to lean 5′ on one side. He was consulted on the Golden Gate Bridge. His road decking had to be reinforced in 1954. He died in disgrace in 1943. Ironically an engineering award in his name is presented every year.

Gertie’s oscillations were eight longitudinally on tbe main span every minute.

Gertie’s remains were not pilfered; they were sold by the state and mostly melted down during WW2. Much of the 1943 Lower Liard River Bridge in British Columbia on the AlCan Highway was made from Gertie’s parts .

http://ouralaskahighway.com

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By: rita s. https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-38530 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:44:04 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-38530 I have always been fascinated with Galloping Gertie. There was an engineer named Dexter Smith who knew the bridge would collapse even before it was opened.He tried to warn the lead designer,Leon Moiseiff, but Moiseiff paid no attention to Smith’s warnings. Smith later designed the replacement bridge, mindfull of Gerties failure. This TNB is sometimes called Sturdy Gertie. It is a wonderful bridge and has withstood many high winds.

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By: Toyotero https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-27577 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:25:42 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-27577 Great article and a very interesting event, but there is an error. It was aeroelastic flutter, not resonance that caused its motion and failure.

A short explanation:
http://youtu.be/6ai2QFxStxo

A long explanation:
http://www.cedengineering.com/upload/Ethical%20Issues%20Tacoma%20Narrows.pdf
“…in the case of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, there was no resonance. According to Farquharson, one of the main investigators of the cause of the bridge collapse, the wind was steady at 42 miles per hour and the frequency of the destructive mode was 12 cycles/minute. This was neither a natural frequency mode of the structure nor the frequency of blunt-body vortex shedding of the bridge at that wind speed (which was approximately 1 Hz). Thus it is improbable that the resonance with alternating vortices played an important role in the oscillations of the bridge.”

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By: Unforgiven https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-27176 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:33:06 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-27176 Actually it’s called harmonic resonance. Because when it’s in harmony the resonance is amplified.

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By: Daz a Zulu https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-26983 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:42:16 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-26983 i would think modern engineers would have learnt a big lesson from this, but here in the uk we have had similar experiences check out Londons Millenium bridge; http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~den/ICSV9_06.htm

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By: zamaris https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-23088 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:00:34 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-23088 [quote]jaydawg53 said: “”After opening, the new bridge shortly came to be known as “Galloping Gertie,” so named by white-knuckled motorists who braved the writhing bridge on windy days. Even in a light breeze, Gertie’s undulations were known to produce waves up to ten feet tall. Sometimes these occurrences were brief, and other times they lasted for hours at a time.”

Ummm… you’re joking, right? Who in their right mind would drive across a bridge that has a wave that reaches up to TEN feet tall, much less any feeling of movement at all? I mean, maybe it was just the perspective of the time, but I can’t believe that the bridge, although supposedly safe, wasn’t immediately closed until they could figure out what was wrong. I just can’t understand how ten foot-tall bridge waves would be considered OK. Does the Golden Gate or any other large bridge noticeably move so much that the motorists can actually feel it?”[/quote]

I have also felt movement on the Lion’s Gate Bridge up here in Vancouver. I was stuck in traffic in the middle once, and I got quite motion sick. For someone who’s terrified of heights, it was definitely a white knuckle experience!!!

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By: Dropbear https://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-galloping-gertie/#comment-22663 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:27:32 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=759#comment-22663 “…a triumph of man’s ingenuity…”
Gotta love that phrase. Goes so well with so many other structures. Titanic, Gertie, Love Canal, that random hotel in North Korea……

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