Comments on: The Rosetta Project https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Fri, 17 Jul 2020 20:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: madastonniesuh https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-27520 Wed, 22 May 2013 15:19:06 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-27520 I expected the article to be about the Rosetta stone. Oh well, the project will do. It is an awesome idea.

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By: Eloquent Rambler https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-27092 Wed, 02 May 2012 11:00:25 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-27092 Going back to a few early points:

Mandarin may be the most spoken 1st language, but only because there are over a billion Chinese people speaking it. English is the most spoken language on the planet because, and I hope you Americans are paying attention to this, not because America is a global superpower, it is because Britain was expanding its worldwide empire, and spreading our culture / language, while you were just shooting natives and pinching their land! English has been used around the globe ALOT longer than your country has even existed for. So to claim that it is on its way to becoming the universal because of you is quite ridiculous!

I do, on the whole, like Americans, but your general egotistical naivety frustrates me!

I can speak relatively fluently in French, German, Spanish and Portuguese. Maybe because English is my native language, but I find it the easiest to communicate in. I go all over Europe on business, and it’s always conducted in English, but I’ve always tried to speak to people in their own tongue because they really appreciate it. Nothing gets business going smoother then getting drunk with a group of German while they’re trying to teach you to sing Das Lied der Deutschen.

Languages may come and go but people will always be protective of their language.

On the previously mentioned connection between language and brain patterns, I saw an experiment a few years ago based on colours. A couple of scientists were in Africa talking to a regional tribe, they showed them a screen with 12 coloured squares on and asked them to point out the odd one out. Seeing the screen it was obvious there were 11 green squares and 1 blue, but no one from this tribe could differentiate. They then showed the 12 squares again and asked the same question, this time I could tell no difference, they all looked green to me, but all the tribe pointed to the same square. This was basically because this tribe has many different names for different greens, and nothing for blue. Because they talk about colours in a different way, they see differently to English speakers. So language is more more than just words.

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By: thekenemy https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-26410 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:57:14 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-26410 Some things about language in Flanders, where I come from.
We are the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium. The other part speaks French, a few speak German. Everyone in Belgium is tought Dutch and French in school, but most Flemish have great trouble with French and most Walloons have trouble with Dutch.
Virtually everyone in Flanders speaks reasonable English, because from an early age we watch English movies and shows with Dutch subtitles.
Every single tiny village in Flanders used to have it’s own dialect, with differences in accent, vocabulary, expressions… from the next village. These are dissappearing now, but people from one side of Flanders still have trouble understanding people from the other side. And it’s a very small country…
For some reason, people from the north of Holland don’t understand us at all, while we understand them reasonably well. They do sound like cats making love to a frog. I think my particular brand of Dutch sounds a bit like Danish.
And then there’s Brussels, where they speak French with Flemish accents, proverbs etc.
Oddly, we don’t have a common phrase for “I love you”, the closest we get is “‘k zin aa geire” (I like seeing you). This is a bit of a problem in Flemish love songs.
There should be at least 7000 more Rosetta Discs for all the variants of Flemish alone. I’ve always wondered if this is the same in other countries.

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By: MacAvity https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-25509 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:08:48 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-25509 Languages are just like animals in this way. When they go extinct, they get turned into stone and buried for long periods of time until somebody digs them up again and tries to reconstruct them. The Rosetta Stone was like the ichthyosaur of all languages. There was also the Epic of Gilgamesh with its Cuneiform writing which was like the Tyrannosaurus Rex of all languages. Languages without written components, like shell-less invertebrates, do not get fossilized. This project is like the thylacine in the jar of preservative, on a grand scale.

In this extended metaphor, Latin is the little dinosaur that evolved into the archeopteryx and from there into all the myriad birds in the world, and Anglo-Saxon is the little rat creature that evolved into all the various hairy beasts of the world. Neither of them is around anymore, but their descendants are, in great numbers. And one of those descendants of the Anglo-Saxon rat creature is in the process of taking over the world.

And thus can the English language be directly compared to the human race.

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By: jimnogood1 https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-25498 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:43:23 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-25498 I think Klingon should be added the Rosetta Project. We should be proactive now, so that we can communicate with them when they arrive in a few hundred years.

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By: kc-guy https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-24100 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:37:44 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-24100 One time two Russians were in New York and they needed directions. They initially asked three New Yorkers in Russian but none of them understood. So one of the Russians asked in French. Still no luck. Finally, the other one asked in German but to no avail. The Russians gave up and disgustingly walked away. One of the New Yorkers said, “You know, it’s about time I learned a foreign language.” Another of New Yorkers replied, “What for? Those guys knew three different foreign languages and it didn’t help them.”
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I’m sick of hearing Europeans complain that Americans don’t know anything about International culture. The US is roughly the size of the ENTIRE CONTINENT of Europe. Why don’t Americans speak 3 languages? Because California and Boston speak (roughly) :D the same language.

The same goes for culture. Americans don’t know as much about the intricacies of French culture as an Italian for a simple reason: America’s ON THE OTHER SIDE ON AN OCEAN.

The end.

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By: a1c https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-22468 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:48:57 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-22468 Cosmopolitanism = homogenization.

Mandarin Chinese + English + ? = ?

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By: DontPanic https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-21997 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:33:00 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-21997 [quote]Mirage_GSM said: ” most people will gather from context whether their conversation partner is talking about bears or beers ;-)”[/quote]

did you learn english with an american accent by any chance? where i come from bears and beers sound completely different i thought it silly that they could possibly be muddled. Ha.

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By: Mirage_GSM https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-21556 Fri, 23 May 2008 13:33:50 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-21556 [quote]Chanticrow said: “This brings up damn interesting questions about why English is, and is continuing to become, so dominant. There are certainly other languages that are just as expressive as English but easier to learn. English is really a terribly difficult language with all its grammatical, contextual, and spellingual (?!) oddities and exceptions.”[/quote]
My native language is german. I learned english, rench and latin in school, started learning japanese later and know a few phrases in spanish. I also had a few discussions with native speakers of hebrew, finnish and other slavic languages about the grammatical peculiarities of their tongues.
Having said as much, I think english has to be one of the easiest languages to learn for non-native speakers. The grammar is ridiculously easy. Conjugation and declension are almost non-existant compared with other languages.
Some spellings and pronounciations are what you would call unintuitive, but those are details not really necessary for successful communication – most people will gather from context whether their conversation partner is talking about bears or beers ;-)

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By: Wooden_Mockingbird https://www.damninteresting.com/the-rosetta-project/#comment-20273 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:46:00 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=422#comment-20273 [quote]another opinion said: Dont thou think’st so?[/quote]

For sooth! Thou ‘s most…
Ack. I give up.
XD

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